Hi I am new and has lotsa questions

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ChiimonzChewy
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i posted in hardware since most of my questions will be about hardware, and just some software

1: will 2 hd 5850 fit in asus rampage iii gene? both on x16 slot? i mean space wise?

2: will the raven rv01 case fit hd 5970?

3: will 2 hd 5850 fit the raven rv02 with the asus rampage iii gene?

4: any recommendations on good cooling? i mean in my room it ain't that hot my case (right now) is inwin android and i3 system 2.9ghz and my cpu cooler i think is some $19 cooler master and i believe my cpu runs around 30c on idle (well i look at the bios) and my gpu i believe runs around 30c on idle as well, im looking at water cooling aswell atleast just the cpu and i dont have all the money in the world.... im planning on building a new pc

which will be
asus rampage iii gene
core i7 920
6gb ddr3
1 ocz vertex2 60gb for os
some caviar green for storage
raven rv01 or rv02 case (depending on some answers above)
corsair 850hx
either i get another hd 5850 or sell my old hd 5850 and invest in either hd 5870 or 6970xfire or (hopefully) hd 5970 depending on budget

5: and for dreaming purposes i want to know if all these spec replacing the video card with an asus ares would run fine on corsair850hx? and i plan on overclocking just the cpu at least to 3.5ghz if not more...so help me out! im a complete noob!

pardon this coming questions but its software related.

6: i plan on having avast and malwarebytes and plan to buy one and other one would be free, which would benefit me more? buying the avast internet security or the malwarebytes pro? i mean i constantly surf and stream alot and if im investing all this money on the pc i want it protected and primed, so i use torrent alot too i mean that is how i have windows 7 ultimate :p and i just wanna be protected from malware and stuff, (well for virus i trust avast since whenever i try to visit a site it just cancels it when something is suspicious) what im worried about is malware? but avast and malwarebytes both on the paid versions will have that? i think? but which one would be a better choice? cause the way i understand it malware only scans not block so i want that blocking of malware etc etc..

7: and im a complete begginer at overclocking (havent done it tbh) so i want to learn can someone guide me?

lol sorry for the novel please answer in this format

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thanks in advance to you kind pro people :D

ChiimonzChewy
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thanks in advance you people, for the first few questions i hope someone who actually has it or seen it physically like that would tell me :D but thanks anyway!

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1. Yes. The PCIe 2.0 x16 slots are spread apart allowing for dual-slot cards.

2. Yes because the RV01 has EATX support.

3. Yup.

4. A good inexpensive heatsink would be the CM Hyper 212+.

5. Yeah, the HX850 would run it fine.

6. Get an all-in-one security package that has everything included.

7. CPU OCing depends on a number of factors. For a more specific response, try asking on the motherboard manufacturer's forum.

ChiimonzChewy
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thanks alot! now im a see the light, all in one security like norton? im afraid it might slow down my pc lol :D

btw will the antec true quattro 1200w power up my system with asus ares as GPU? cause i can only buy asus ares with it as combo

and btw rodneys review said about raven rv01 are 10.5" consumer level and 12" workstation level, and if hd 5970 is 12" would it really fit? and what is a legit site for water cooling stuff? like water blocks for chipsets as well :D

also my internet keeps getting dc i have wireless router, and all the time signal is 100% but sometimes suddenly internet will say problem loading page etc etc, then after abotu 10-30secs it will come back with the signal being stable at 100% sometimes 2minutes without coming back i restart the router then it comes back viola, you think my router is the one causing this? cause my aunt's ipad is connected to it sometimes and it does that too...

k1llg0r3
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http://www.Newegg.com has lots of waterblocks and things like that

My Rig|CPU- i7 950@3.08ghz|CPU Cooler- Coolermaster v8|Motherboard- EVGA X58 SLI3|RAM- G.skill Trident 6gb 2000mhz|GPU- XFX HD5870|Case- HAF 932 Black Edition|PSU- Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000W

hnkftalnot
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5970 is not a workstation card so I don't think it will fit the case, although I'm not really sure what the difference in dimensions would be between workstation and consumer cards.

and yeah, wireless does that. You could give it a try with a better router but it probably wont make a difference.

watercooling websites/shops: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67179

ChiimonzChewy
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im thinking about a powerline network? cause if only i can with cables i would do straight cables but this aint my house and i cant make a mess, so powerline i know its not that faster than wireless, what im just after is getting rid of the constant DC i mean my internet is fast, real fast that im completely satisfied, its just the constant DC that is p i s s i n g me off so bad that rodney can say its a 100% p i s s e d off product

anyway but you think powerline vs wireless N? like i said its about connectivity not really the speed for me as G sustains my speed needs, but what im worried about also what are the stuff i need to look out for a powerline network?

hnkftalnot
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Hmm I have no experience with powerline networking, but since it's not used that much, I suspect there are some issues with it. You'll also have to buy some kind of powerline router or receiver/transmitter kit. Also, I just read that powerline networks can only do 50 Kbps to 350 Kbps (==6 to 44 KB/s), which is probably waaaay lower than your ISP connection speed.

Why not just use a cable from the router to your pc? If you can't hammer or drill in walls then just hide it behind cupboards, shelves, etc.

Oh and about your wireless disconnecting, I first said that it was normal, but if it happens very often then it's not normal and there's surely something wrong. I searched around a bit and found some clues;
1.there may be interference with networks nearby, if so, changing the channel of your wireless might resolve this. (best thing is to check at which channels those other networks are, but I don't know of any windows program that allows you to check this.)
2. there may be other wireless devices in the house that also operate at 2.4 GHz like computer mice, wireless phones, everything wireless. Those interfere with your wireless router as well.
3. the router may need a firmware upgrade (google your router and see if there are issues with it) or it's just broken.

ChiimonzChewy
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i see thanks alot, and i kinda googled i think they say N wireless is better than powerline, and i dont think it was this headset too cause its wireless, my mouse and kb are too but when i first built this pc the kb and mouse are wireless and for 2 months no DC but now constant and my new headset is 4 days old and this constant dc is been for 1.5months so i really think my router sucks, its a belkin $30 one the G wireless, and i mean even my aunt's ipad (which i dislike alot, just being around it seriously i hate apple) get's DC as well as she ask for me to try and fix it (she's 61 years old lol) im thinking of buying d-link dir 601 since it's like $30 bucks right now and its N and it has good reviews, and idk where i read it that N not only is better in range and speed but i think in signal/connectivirt/stability as well....and thanks alot for the very good advice!oh and btw to explain clearly what happens, say im surfing the net click load click load click load click loading loading loading loading loading refresh loading loading loading type 192.168.2 bla bla bla router status connected, check back mozilla server not found refresh loading loading loading check 192.168.2 bla bla connected go to speedtest.net loading loading loading loading then boom empty white mozilla it dint even say server not found, but when it comes to this point when all the stuff that are loading comes to become white, one refresh and they are up again.

sorry for adding another question, i have a hp 23" 1080p monitor and i have my old (sony bravia 32" which was my monitor before) and i just thought to do a dual monitor, but will my gaming suffer? i mean the bravia will be just desktop stuff, too look at internet while gaming and this and that... i have a single hd 5850...and i usually play starcraft 2 atm l4d2 and FFXIV only, cause im planning to buy a 2nd monitor for the purpose of the bravia, and does any1 knows what those "portrait" monitors are? or how to do them? cause i saw some and they are more expensive than my main monitor!! i want something simple, its just for internet, is there like a stand to mount any monitor that can be wall mounted to a stand that makes it portrait? thanks in advance!

hnkftalnot
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So you CAN connect to your router when this disconnect happens? That would mean the problem is not with your wireless connection, (because you can still reach 192.168.2.1) but with the router itself or your ISP.
I actually also have a belkin router and it sometimes does the same thing; websites fail to load, but the router page says it's connected, and I just have to wait a while before I can load websites again. Sometimes I can't even load the 192.168.2.1 page while windows says it's connected to the router... I guess the router just freezes sometimes. But it doesn't happen too often so I'm okay with it..

So I don't think your wireless G is the problem, but the router itself. It can also be your ISP though, but I'd first try another router. Maybe you can buy it from somewhere where you can bring it back if it doesn't help? Oh and it doesn't have to be N, G is good enough.
I know my next router will not be a belkin, because this thing sucks and it's good to hear from someone else that it's not just my router that's acting strange :).

About your monitors, I recently added two monitors to my system and I don't notice any slowdown in games. I can imagine a slowdown because the GPU has to do more, but maybe it's so little that you won't notice it.. I never measured it or something.

And what do you mean that portrait monitors are expensive? Any monitor can be portrait, it's just a setting in windows screen settings.
The only difference is that the stand must allow the monitor to turn into portrait view, but I can't image that being so expensive. Sounds to me like those "portrait-monitors" you saw are a huge ripoff.
I think you're better off fixing some stand yourself, or just unscrew the stand from the monitor and attach it to the wall or something?