In your opinion how old should someone be to not be a virgin?

[imtim83]

In my opinion 30 +

[JCYC5]

uhh... in that case... whoops.

[ch0g0nda]

Originally posted by JCYC5
uhh... in that case... whoops. SO! The meatsabre has seen a few battles ^_~

[JCYC5]

more than a few...

[ch0g0nda]

Originally posted by JCYC5
more than a few... Wait. your 13 right?

[JCYC5]

So?

[ch0g0nda]

Oh nothing. Just making sure.

[JCYC5]

Hey, I can read your mind, just not very clearly. Now tell me what you were thinking.

[ch0g0nda]

Thinking I should stop getting to bed at 2 in the morning.

[JCYC5]

No, that time is fine, as long as you're accompanied.

[ch0g0nda]

Originally posted by JCYC5
No, that time is fine, as long as you're accompanied. Not for a few years now.

[JCYC5]

Aww...

:D

[ch0g0nda]

Originally posted by JCYC5
Aww...

:D meh. I still live with my parents.. Having someone doze off to sleep overnight may pose something of a problem.

I think I wait till I move out... And untill then being "friends that do stuff" is good enough for me.

[JCYC5]

I live with my parents too.

But there are such things as friends who have holiday homes around that they don't use and are willing to lend me the keys :D

[thephenom]

OMG....ewww....kids having sex.....

BTW, you are aware that it's TOTALLY ILLEGAL in HK to be having sex with a 13 yr old, rite???:devil

Oh wait, I didn't answer the original question.

I think from the age of 16-18 would be OK, depending on the maturity level of the person.

[JCYC5]

Yeah, 16 minimum for guys and 18 minimum for girls.

Don't ask why.

[thephenom]

Originally posted by JCYC5
Yeah, 16 minimum for guys and 18 minimum for girls.

Don't ask why.
It's 16 for both sexes, isn't it?

[JCYC5]

i'm pretty sure it's 18 for girls.

[thephenom]

Originally posted by JCYC5
i'm pretty sure it's 18 for girls.
Not sure, u go find out since I dun need such info.:devil (yet)

[JCYC5]

You going to come back to HK?

[thephenom]

Originally posted by JCYC5
You going to come back to HK?
For work, probably not, not too much future in there.
For vacation, probably will, maybe next summer or the yr after.

[JCYC5]

You've found yourself a tour guide :Wink

[SavesNFGDay]

I wanna go to hong Kong, or anywhere really, although most of the time I think that Money is better spent on other things...

[JCYC5]

Girlfriend?

[SavesNFGDay]

Originally posted by JCYC5
Girlfriend? wellll....That wasn't what I was thinking of, but yeah, that is one thing, I was more thinking about Computer/car...

[JCYC5]

Whoa, 3 money pits. Lucky I only own 2.

[SavesNFGDay]

Originally posted by JCYC5
Whoa, 3 money pits. Lucky I only own 2. Yes, The car is the worst I think....But what 2 do you own??? Your GF??? Better not let her see this thread...lol....But yeah, I need an upgrade pretty soon...

[JCYC5]

Your car, girlfriend or computer?

[SavesNFGDay]

Originally posted by JCYC5
Your car, girlfriend or computer? haha.....The computer, I mean it plays all games fine, But still, I'd like to get a little more horsepower...

[JCYC5]

If you were refering to your gf there, I'd be :Holy Crap

heh.

Always that *need* for the best of the best in computer parts, eh? :D

Lucky you don't own a car here... A honda civic eats $60 for a full fuel-up.

[SavesNFGDay]

Originally posted by JCYC5
If you were refering to your gf there, I'd be :Holy Crap

heh.

Always that *need* for the best of the best in computer parts, eh? :D

Lucky you don't own a car here... A honda civic eats $60 for a full fuel-up. OMG....that's a lot:Holy Crap around here the biggest I ever saw was a Chevy Suburban and the total on the gas pump read $60....imagine what that would cost in Hong Kong...

[JCYC5]

Can't blame the HK government for trying to discourage people to get cars... small country, dirty air, many cars.

[SavesNFGDay]

Originally posted by JCYC5
Can't blame the HK government for trying to discourage people to get cars... small country, dirty air, many cars. I agree, you probably have a pretty badass public transport system too, Unlike Minneapolis here, where it's damn near impossible to get where you need to without a car...

[JCYC5]

True, the transportation system is kickass :D

[Artcwolf]

Originally posted by SavesNFGDay
I agree, you probably have a pretty badass public transport system too, Unlike Minneapolis here, where it's damn near impossible to get where you need to without a car...

Public Transportation sucks in the U.S. compared to many oversea's nations.

The U.S. was built around everyone owning their own vehicles for the past 50 years or so.

Sad part is that now it's going to be damn near impossible, logistically, to put in a good public transportation system.

Here in Dallas/Ft. Worth Dart has been trying to build up a public transportation system w/ buses and trains; however, financial cut-backs and lack of funding has brought it to a halt.

Not to mention that it will be a crude pt system compared to most other country's. It also will not help many who live outside the immediate Dallas area.

For those that don't know Dallas/Ft. Worth has almost grown together into one massive city comprised of two major county's, multiple smaller ones, and several cities. What Dart was trying to build would not have been completed for several years and would mainly have improved was some of the pt issues in the central Dallas area.

I think what the U.S. really needs right now, is public medical care. I have insurance right now and still cannot afford to go to the doctor or dentist. I desprately need to go to the dentist...:Sigh

[thephenom]

Not only it's expensive to fuel up in HK, there's no free parking. You'll have to pay EVERYWHERE you go.:shocking

[MGE]

Originally posted by Artcwolf
Public Transportation sucks in the U.S. compared to many oversea's nations.

The U.S. was built around everyone owning their own vehicles for the past 50 years or so.

Sad part is that now it's going to be damn near impossible, logistically, to put in a good public transportation system.

Here in Dallas/Ft. Worth Dart has been trying to build up a public transportation system w/ buses and trains; however, financial cut-backs and lack of funding has brought it to a halt.

Not to mention that it will be a crude pt system compared to most other country's. It also will not help many who live outside the immediate Dallas area.

For those that don't know Dallas/Ft. Worth has almost grown together into one massive city comprised of two major county's, multiple smaller ones, and several cities. What Dart was trying to build would not have been completed for several years and would mainly have improved was some of the pt issues in the central Dallas area.

I think what the U.S. really needs right now, is public medical care. I have insurance right now and still cannot afford to go to the doctor or dentist. I desprately need to go to the dentist...:Sigh

I never understood why in America you have to have your own medical insurance, or you don't get anything.

The UK is a lot different.
We have the NHS (National Health Service).
Granted its not the best, but at least it sorts you out if anything happens to you.

You choose your own doctor, and can move doctor when ever you want, to where ever you want.
My last trip to the dentists didn't cost me a penny, but it cost the government £60 :D
Ah, the joys of public health care!

There is the option to have private healthcare, but all that does is put you in a private ward if anything happens.
Which is nice, but not essential.

Anyway, about the main post question: As old as they want.
Why is it so important to lose your virginity?
It should be when you feel ready, not when your friends think you are ready.
Sometimes people don't find someone straight away.

(No, I am not still a Virgin) :D

[WazLady]

I really don't know. I guess it varies by each person.

I was 15 when lost mine.....

[thephenom]

Originally posted by WazLady
I really don't know. I guess it varies by each person.

I was 15 when lost mine.....
Is that legal?:What the

[thephenom]

Originally posted by MGE
I never understood why in America you have to have your own medical insurance, or you don't get anything.

The UK is a lot different.
We have the NHS (National Health Service).
Granted its not the best, but at least it sorts you out if anything happens to you.

You choose your own doctor, and can move doctor when ever you want, to where ever you want.
My last trip to the dentists didn't cost me a penny, but it cost the government ?0 :D
Ah, the joys of public health care!

There is the option to have private healthcare, but all that does is put you in a private ward if anything happens.
Which is nice, but not essential.

Anyway, about the main post question: As old as they want.
Why is it so important to lose your virginity?
It should be when you feel ready, not when your friends think you are ready.
Sometimes people don't find someone straight away.

(No, I am not still a Virgin) :D
Public Health System works if the citizen pays for it. And with the tax level so low in US, it's not enough to provide health service for EVERYONE. In UK and Canada, our health system is funded by our taxes, or at least a larger proportion of it is. If the system weren't funded by taxes, the gov't would go HUGELY in debt leading to all kinda issues which will take 4ever to cover.

[WazLady]

Originally posted by thephenom
Is that legal?:What the

If the guy was over 18 he would be in jail.

But since we both were the same age.....

[tantousha]

Originally posted by WazLady
I really don't know. I guess it varies by each person.

I was 15 when lost mine.....

Hmm...dost thou Wazman knoweth this?

[egarrard]

Originally posted by tantousha
Hmm...dost thou Wazman knoweth this? What does it matter? He wasn't around then and she's her own person.

If you're old enough to figure out how to lose your virginity, you old enough to go ahead and lose it. :bounce
Of course, prudes were never smart enough to figure out how. Luckily, that means their kind will be dying out. :thumb

[tantousha]

Originally posted by egarrard
What does it matter? He wasn't around then and she's her own person.

True, but one was only joking...

At any rate...I fall in the 17 category (or was it 18? happened right around my birthday) anyway...yeah...last summer...no I was prob. still 17...yeah 17...

[thephenom]

Originally posted by tantousha
True, but one was only joking...

At any rate...I fall in the 17 category (or was it 18? happened right around my birthday) anyway...yeah...last summer...no I was prob. still 17...yeah 17...
Having some troubles with the math eh.:devil

[JCYC5]

It's a lovely birthday present, eh? :KICK ASS

[WazLady]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by egarrard
[B]What does it matter? He wasn't around then and she's her own person.

Yes, he knows. And it was before I met him. I met Wazman the first time when I was 18.

Everyone has a past...everyone has skeltons in the closet. I know mine is overflowing with bones that I need a bigger one!:lmao

Sometimes it is those skeltons that make you who you are today. Strange when you look back on your life and how certian people molded you into who you are now.

Ok, I will get off my soapbox now or I will keep you here all night:lmao :bounce

[JCYC5]

Yeah, it's amazing how some things can just totally change your life...

[thephenom]

Originally posted by JCYC5
Yeah, it's amazing how some things can just totally change your life...
And it's amazing how a 13 yr old is already reflecting on life.

[JCYC5]

Well, to me 13 years is a long time.

Even events that happen yesterday affect me today, so...

[wazman]

Originally posted by tantousha
Hmm...dost thou Wazman knoweth this?

Yeah, I know about it.

Doesn't bother me. WazLady is my wife, but what she did before we got married is not my business unless she chooses to tell me about it. Same with me... There's plenty about me she doesn't know...

:D

[wazman]

Originally posted by JCYC5
It's a lovely birthday present, eh? :KICK ASS

Yes, it is... :KICKASS

And anniversary present, and Christmas present, and just about any kind of day you want present... :D

[wazman]

Originally posted by WazLady
[QUOTE]Originally posted by egarrard
[B]What does it matter? He wasn't around then and she's her own person.

Yes, he knows. And it was before I met him. I met Wazman the first time when I was 18.

Everyone has a past...everyone has skeltons in the closet. I know mine is overflowing with bones that I need a bigger one!:lmao

Sometimes it is those skeltons that make you who you are today. Strange when you look back on your life and how certian people molded you into who you are now.

Ok, I will get off my soapbox now or I will keep you here all night:lmao :bounce

Which skeltons, dear? Red Skelton? Isn't he dead? :)

Actually, I don't have any skeletons in my closet. I've lead such a boring life that I don't even need a closet... A shoebox would do... :Crying

[tantousha]

I have a couple skeletons in my closest (Sex at 17 is one of them...especially since I'm not dating the girl anymore)

I need a girl to make me feel better...:Crying

[thephenom]

Originally posted by wazman
Yeah, I know about it.

Doesn't bother me. WazLady is my wife, but what she did before we got married is not my business unless she chooses to tell me about it. Same with me... There's plenty about me she doesn't know...

:D
Now we wouldn't want her to start questioning about it, do we?:devil

[efernandez_98]

Originally posted by thephenom
Is that legal?:What the It better be, I lost mine about a year or two earlier.

[thephenom]

Originally posted by efernandez_98
It better be, I lost mine about a year or two earlier.
Having sex with your right hand doesn't count! j/k

I think it's only legal when your 16. Not sure.

[Scottman]

To answer the original question... Old enough to take responsibility for your actions (whatever age that is). No matter how protected you are, sex still runs the risk of pregnancy. If you are capable of dealing with the possible consequences of the act, then you are "old enough" to do it.

Heh, my manager at work made a funny statement the other day... His oldest son is running off to join the marines, and he has been trying to convince him to think things through a little more. After a particularly frustrating meeting with his son, my boss blurted out "Teenagers are punishment for enjoying sex". Seemed funny at the time...

[thephenom]

Yep, kids were mostly accidents.:lmao

[Scottman]

Originally posted by thephenom
Yep, kids were mostly accidents.:lmao

What's that old saying...? People in cars cause accidents, and accidents in cars cause people!

[JCYC5]

lol!!

Thats a new one for me...

[thephenom]

Originally posted by Scottman
What's that old saying...? People in cars cause accidents, and accidents in cars cause people!
:lmao

I thought ppl like doing it with protection in car, just so you don't get your car dirty.

Kinda like "Don't drink and drive, because you'll spill your drink.":devil

[egarrard]

Oh, yeah. Glovebox.

[Göran Hägg]

Either be prepared to take care of a child or have a one-way ticket to cayman islands and soem cash ready. :coffee

[efernandez_98]

Originally posted by egarrard
Oh, yeah. Glovebox. or to put it blatently, G-love-box.

[JCYC5]

:lmao :rofl2 :lmao :rofl2

The beginning scene of Ali G's Indahouse comes to mind...

[Artcwolf]

Originally posted by Scottman
To answer the original question... Old enough to take responsibility for your actions (whatever age that is). No matter how protected you are, sex still runs the risk of pregnancy. If you are capable of dealing with the possible consequences of the act, then you are "old enough" to do it.

I agree.

Most teens having sex do not fully respect or understand this responsibility, unfortunately. If they get pregnant, then we have kids raising kids. It's a very unfortunate situation that seems to be happening more and more.

As I work in a school district I see many 10 year old kids parents that are in their mid-20's. Sad that they became parents when they were 14 - 16 years old.

The real issues begin when you realize that those students tend to be the one's with the most issues.

[wazman]

Originally posted by Artcwolf
I agree.

Most teens having sex do not fully respect or understand this responsibility, unfortunately. If they get pregnant, then we have kids raising kids. It's a very unfortunate situation that seems to be happening more and more.

As I work in a school district I see many 10 year old kids parents that are in their mid-20's. Sad that they became parents when they were 14 - 16 years old.

The real issues begin when you realize that those students tend to be the one's with the most issues.

Yep... And chances are very good that they'll just repeat the same mistakes and continue the cycle...

[WazLady]

Originally posted by wazman
Yep... And chances are very good that they'll just repeat the same mistakes and continue the cycle...

I agree...and you see a 30 year old women a grandmother already!

Eeekkk!!!!

[MGE]

Originally posted by Artcwolf
I agree.

Most teens having sex do not fully respect or understand this responsibility, unfortunately. If they get pregnant, then we have kids raising kids. It's a very unfortunate situation that seems to be happening more and more.

As I work in a school district I see many 10 year old kids parents that are in their mid-20's. Sad that they became parents when they were 14 - 16 years old.

The real issues begin when you realize that those students tend to be the one's with the most issues.

Manchester - Teenage Mother Capital of the world

[WazLady]

Originally posted by MGE
Manchester - Teenage Mother Capital of the world

Really? A lot of them over there????

I was NOT ready at 15 to have a child....

[MGE]

Originally posted by WazLady
Really? A lot of them over there????

I was NOT ready at 15 to have a child....

A lot?
There are HUNDREDS of them over here, which is rather disturbing.
some of them actually do it on purpose as well, so they don't have to work, the government will take care of them, pay their housing bills, heating bills, baby bills, everything.
All they have to do is go to the job center every 2 weeks to collect their gyro cheque.

[Tivon]

I was 13 when I lost mine. If I recall right it was not the best time in my life.
I was scared and it was weird and a little overwhelming awkward and shocking.
The first time was definitely not the best. Pretty much from then on I’ve been
steady going. I’ve yet to find a woman I could not out sex.:devil

[WazLady]

Originally posted by MGE
A lot?
There are HUNDREDS of them over here, which is rather disturbing.
some of them actually do it on purpose as well, so they don't have to work, the government will take care of them, pay their housing bills, heating bills, baby bills, everything.
All they have to do is go to the job center every 2 weeks to collect their gyro cheque.

Well yeah, if the government will take care of you why not? That is quite generous too.

I know here if you go on welfare you get X amount of money for food once a month, some housing paid for you and they will pick up your medical bills. But you still live poor. I don't know all the details since I have never been on welfare, so I could be wrong in some area's.

I remember when I was in high school I turned 18 my senior year and a friend of mine said, " Hey Tracie, do you know you could drop out of school, get prego and go on welfare?" Like that was a priority of mine to reach for!:Yea right

Didn't do it. I was 25 when I had mine.

[MGE]

Originally posted by WazLady
Well yeah, if the government will take care of you why not? That is quite generous too.

I know here if you go on welfare you get X amount of money for food once a month, some housing paid for you and they will pick up your medical bills. But you still live poor. I don't know all the details since I have never been on welfare, so I could be wrong in some area's.

I remember when I was in high school I turned 18 my senior year and a friend of mine said, " Hey Tracie, do you know you could drop out of school, get prego and go on welfare?" Like that was a priority of mine to reach for!:Yea right

Didn't do it. I was 25 when I had mine.

Medical is free over here, NHS (National Health Service) :D
but the government pays for everything.
The more kids you have, the more money you get, and that doesn't include food money, thats seperate.

My friend Amy, is 15, and has a kid.
She gets £100 per month for childcare
£150 per month food
upto £600 per month housing

To me, that looks like an incentive to have a bun in the oven very young really doesn't it?

[WazLady]

Originally posted by MGE
Medical is free over here, NHS (National Health Service) :D
but the government pays for everything.
The more kids you have, the more money you get, and that doesn't include food money, thats seperate.

My friend Amy, is 15, and has a kid.
She gets £100 per month for childcare
£150 per month food
upto £600 per month housing

To me, that looks like an incentive to have a bun in the oven very young really doesn't it?

I guess so! Will 600 pounds pay rent though in your area????

Would that be for a nice place or a middle of the road apartment?

[wazman]

Originally posted by WazLady
Really? A lot of them over there????

I was NOT ready at 15 to have a child....

Dear, you're not ready at 30 - who are you trying to kid?

(JK - actually, I was the one who wasn't ready. But she's put my fears to rest...)

[MGE]

Originally posted by WazLady
I guess so! Will 600 pounds pay rent though in your area????

Would that be for a nice place or a middle of the road apartment?

It depends on the area.
My area, no way.
A 1 bedroom flat costs about £700 per month.

Go down the road about half a mile into Levenshulme, and you can get a 4 bedroomed terraced house for £600 per month.
Typical values of houses there: £60,000

The house next door to me, sold for £275,000
And its Identical to *my house.

(*=My folks house)

[MGE]

Originally posted by thephenom
Public Health System works if the citizen pays for it. And with the tax level so low in US, it's not enough to provide health service for EVERYONE. In UK and Canada, our health system is funded by our taxes, or at least a larger proportion of it is. If the system weren't funded by taxes, the gov't would go HUGELY in debt leading to all kinda issues which will take 4ever to cover.

Yeah, and the government over here LOVES to put stupid amounts of tax on everything.
Next thing to be introduce probably: Breathing Tax. :surrender

[WazLady]

Originally posted by MGE
It depends on the area.
My area, no way.
A 1 bedroom flat costs about £700 per month.

Go down the road about half a mile into Levenshulme, and you can get a 4 bedroomed terraced house for £600 per month.
Typical values of houses there: £60,000

The house next door to me, sold for £275,000
And its Identical to *my house.

(*=My folks house)

So the houses for 600 pounds a month those would be nice???

I have to spell out pounds since my keyboard doesn't have th "L" thingy for the pound. Sorry....

[MGE]

Originally posted by WazLady
So the houses for 600 pounds a month those would be nice???

I have to spell out pounds since my keyboard doesn't have th "L" thingy for the pound. Sorry....

They are ok, but in a neighbourhood you wouldn't feel comfy living in, unless of course, you like to go the shops armed with knuckle dusters for self defence purposes.

[WazLady]

Originally posted by MGE
They are ok, but in a neighbourhood you wouldn't feel comfy living in, unless of course, you like to go the shops armed with knuckle dusters for self defence purposes.

Ouch!

I think I would stay away from that area....

[MGE]

Originally posted by WazLady
Ouch!

I think I would stay away from that area....

Me too.
I only go there if I have too.

They only have 2 police cars patroling the whole of Levenshulme as well :What the

So, as you can imagine, I walk Briskly thru that area :D
Sometimes, I may even trot! :D

[WazLady]

Originally posted by MGE
Me too.
I only go there if I have too.

They only have 2 police cars patroling the whole of Levenshulme as well :What the

So, as you can imagine, I walk Briskly thru that area :D
Sometimes, I may even trot! :D

So you walk with your head down, and look like you are harmless...

Belive me, I have been through some questionable area's myself....

[bejohnson]

*BUMP* (for fun)

[KusoSamurai]

Pretty much what everyone else, when you think your mature enough go ahead =P

[egarrard]

The moral of life: Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[Kindom934]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......