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egarrard
09-27-2003, 12:30 AM
Hubby Clones Wife (http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/wwn/20030925/106450200000.html)

BIOLOGIST Dmitri Ivanov secretly cloned his cancer-riddled wife Katrina in 1965, in an experiment that seemed to end happily when he married the dead woman's genetic duplicate just days after she turned 18.

But the brilliant scientist's love for his look-alike bride soon grew cold.

In 1985, Ivanov dumped her and made yet another clone of her dead sister. Then he waited patiently until the second clone turned 18 last March before marrying her.

"These are the kinds of horror stories that turn the public against any kind of cloning, even the cloning of stem cells that could cure diseases like Alzheimer's disease and diabetes," says Dr. Robert Follet, founder of the London-based cloning advocacy group, Scientists for Ethics in Duplication.

"Raising a clone as a child and then marrying her is bad enough. But to involve a second, genetically related clone in a tawdry love triangle is unconscionable.

"It could take years to overcome the bad publicity.

"And lest we forget, we're dealing with powerful emotions and real lives here.

"Clones derived from human genetic material aren't somehow less than human. They are people, too."

Details of Ivanov's experiments are sketchy, but sources in Moscow say the scientist ran Russia's cloning laboratory until the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

Records suggest that the expert authorized and participated in the cloning of at least 300 humans.

In unauthorized experiments, Ivanov "personally created and raised at least three and possibly four clones," add the insiders, noting that it isn't clear what happened to the others.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has intervened in the bizarre case, ordering Ivanov and his new clone, 18-year-old Galina Kolokov, to remain in his apartment under protective custody.

Ivanov's first clone bride, Elina Kolokov, is believed to be housed in a government psychiatric facility "recovering from the shock."

Here are some facts as they are currently known:

* Ivanov is 69. Elina is 38, and sources say she is plain and chubby -- unlike perky, pretty Galina.
* Elina was cloned from genetic material extracted from a single hair provided by Ivanov's first wife, Katrina, as she lay dying from cancer in 1965.
* Galina was cloned from a piece of the dead woman's ear cartilage.

In the United States, feminists, clergymen and scientists worry that Ivanov's abuse of cloning technology may be the beginning of a horrifying trend.

"Cloning humans is illegal in the U.S., but there's nothing to stop American men from having their wives and girlfriends cloned in another country," says one feminist.

"The cloning of women for the purpose of companionship cheapens us all," she adds.

Lawyers are weighing in, too.

"It's clear that to stop this kind of thing from happening, we'll need new laws that will allow us to legislate what you can and can't do with a clone," one attorney says.

efernandez_98
09-27-2003, 07:03 AM
Hmm... I dunno, but does anyone know who Jennifer Love Hewitt's Hair Stylist is?

wazman
09-27-2003, 05:44 PM
I've heard stories like this before... I tend to doubt the truth of them, but I have been wrong before...

Maybe that's where they get all those Russian mail-order brides. :)

Tivon
09-27-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by wazman
I've heard stories like this before... I tend to doubt the truth of them, but I have been wrong before...

Maybe that's where they get all those Russian mail-order brides. :)

The clones of sheep tend to die before normal terms.. So why would a women clone live to be 18? And what women would want to be with a man that old?:Yea right

blpeterson
09-27-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Tivon
And what women would want to be with a man that old?:Yea right

I beg your pardon.:)

Tivon
09-28-2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by blpeterson
I beg your pardon.:)

Well I guess if your into doing the nasty with a guy you could call grandpa then nothing is stoping you.:p

blpeterson
09-28-2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Tivon
Well I guess if your into doing the nasty with a guy you could call grandpa then nothing is stoping you.:p

Well my hubbie is more than 15 years older than me yet I don't think about the age difference at all.

Tivon
09-28-2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by blpeterson
Well my hubbie is more than 15 years older than me yet I don't think about the age difference at all.

Well 15 years is not that bad... :Wink

thephenom
09-28-2003, 01:22 AM
Well, with a bit of psychology, behaviour isn't strictly based upon genetics. Meaning, even with 2 person with the SAME genetics, it doesn't mean they'll have EXACTLY the same behaviour. Behaviour is also depended on the person's interaction with the environment. So which means that if you cloned your wife, ur newly cloned wife might NOT love you like your current wife does unless they have been through the exact same experience.

So in another sense, there are two of the similar person, but their behaviour/personality will probably be different.

Xilant
09-28-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Tivon
The clones of sheep tend to die before normal terms.. So why would a women clone live to be 18? And what women would want to be with a man that old?:Yea right

If he married her when she was young and he was young. WHen he got old, she died, he cloned her back. So technically, she still loves him. Quite the story to tell though. SOrry honey you got old and died, so i cloned you young agian.

bejohnson
09-28-2003, 09:03 PM
Why would a man want to marry the same woman twice?




Yes honey?................ OWWWWW!

JCYC5
09-30-2003, 02:09 AM
:lmao :rofl2

thephenom
09-30-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by bejohnson
Why would a man want to marry the same woman twice?




Yes honey?................ OWWWWW!
She's good in bed? She makes good dinner? :Blah

ChKFlores
10-03-2003, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by efernandez_98
Hmm... I dunno, but does anyone know who Jennifer Love Hewitt's Hair Stylist is?

:lmao :rofl2 That's funny. Mmmm...Love... :Nice