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bejohnson
09-28-2003, 03:07 PM
Did they have it right in Star Trek IV?

Whale of a Change

Scientists Suggest Whale Hunting Led to Widespread Species Declines

By Lee Dye
Special to ABCNEWS.com

Sept. 25 — The population of sea lions, seals and otters in the north Pacific Ocean has declined so catastrophically in recent years that scientists fear for their continued survival, and the reasons why remain open to fierce debate. Now, a team of scientists has come up with a creative hypothesis that blames it all on human activities following World War II.

Extensive whaling removed more than half a million great whales from the north Pacific after the war, forcing a subtle change in the dietary habits of the true lord of the ocean, the killer whale, according to this new theory. With fewer baleen and sperm whales to dine on, pods of killer whales that used to take out an occasional great whale gradually turned to other marine animals, setting off an ecological domino effect that has extended to the present.

"If our hypothesis is correct, either wholly or in significant part, commercial whaling in the north Pacific Ocean set off one of the longest and most complex ecological chain reactions every described, beginning in the open ocean 50 years ago" and continuing to this day with the devastation of huge kelp beds off western Alaska, the scientists argue in their report, published in a recent issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Looking For Causes

The decline of various species has been blamed on everything from commercial fishing to global climate change, and the situation has become so serious — and so poorly understood — that the federal government has pumped millions of dollars into research. At least $100 million has been spent over the last three years studying the decline of sea lions alone, according to Alan Springer, an oceanographer with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, who has spent years studying the decimation of various marine animal populations.

Sea lions have declined by more than 80 percent in the last 30 years throughout a huge area stretching from Alaska to Japan, according to the National Marine Fisheries Service.

Similarly, harbor seals, fur seals and sea otters have also declined dramatically in most areas of the north Pacific, despite the fact that these animals differ somewhat in their diet and lifestyles.

Springer, the lead author of the report, says he found the most common explanations for their decline inadequate. Many scientists, perhaps most, believe that commercial fishing has depleted coastal food resources, leading to malnourished populations that are susceptible to diseases. Others believe global climate change has so altered the marine environment that these animals are finding it impossible to cope with shifting resources.

But the evidence for that is hard to come by, according to many scientists, and even the National Marine Fisheries Service describes that hypothesis as just an educated guess.

And it seems reasonable to look for a common cause for these declines, because while the species are different, they also share much in common.

So Springer was particularly intrigued by a report in the journal Science a few years ago that indicated that killer whales were to blame for the decline of sea otters in the Aleutian Islands.

Changing Whale Taste

Springer contacted the author of that report, Jim Estes of the University of California, Santa Cruz, and the two began working together.

"Jim had come to the conclusion, based on a lot of really thorough research in the Aleutian Islands, that predation was the most probable explanation for the collapse of the sea otter population," Springer says. "He had a lot of really solid evidence that pointed in that direction."

Springer and Estes were eventually joined by six other experts, and they began examining the question of whether killer whales might be the culprit in the decline of other marine animals as well.

The working hypothesis was pretty straightforward. When commercial whaling destroyed huge stocks of whales following the war, at least some killer whales might have turned to other sources. They probably knocked off harbor seals first, because they are easy to catch and nutritious, then turned to fur seals, and then sea lions (suggesting a level of desperation because sea lions would be fierce combatants and less nutritious) and finally to bite-sized sea otters. But would the historical record support that?

The researchers found a very tidy fit. Harbor seal populations began collapsing in the early 1970s, and fur seals a bit later in the mid-'70s, and sea lions in the late' 70s, and sea otters in the '90s. Commercial whaling has been banned for years now, but some species have been slow to rebound, and the dietary preference of killer whales may have changed forever.

Many scientists contend that no single predator could possibly have caused such destruction, so Springer and his colleagues looked at the numbers. They found that if the overall killer whale population shifted just one percent of its diet away from whales to smaller marine animals, that would have led to the catastrophic decline we see today.

And not every killer whale would need to make the switch.

"A much smaller number of killer whales would have done the same thing if they had changed their diet so that the bulk of it came from sea lions or harbor seals," Springer says.

And as Estes has shown, killer whales have developed a taste for sea otters, and once the otters were decimated, sea urchins moved into the kelp beds off Alaska and mowed them down, depriving the region of valuable marine habitats.

So if Springer and his group are right, the impact of whaling half a century ago is still rampant.

Problem of Proof

Proving that hypothesis is going to be difficult. Springer hopes that killer whales themselves might eventually prove him right, or wrong. If they did indeed change their diet, that should show up in the isotopic ratios of carbon and nitrogen in their teeth, he says. Or there may be other "bio-markers" that would shed more light on the eating habits of killer whales.

"To some degree, you are what you eat," he says.

Now, how do you get killer whales, unique in the sea because they have no predators, to stop by the local dentist office?


Lee Dye’s column appears weekly on ABCNEWS.com. A former science writer for the Los Angeles Times, he now lives in Juneau, Alaska.

wazman
09-28-2003, 05:46 PM
WazLady and I were talking about something like this today - about cheetahs, and how they're almost extinct.

Yeah, I think we've done some bad things to our world and we're only now starting to see the long-term effects of them.

Now, I'm not a tree-hugging PETA member, but I think the time has come to start changing some of our ways and hope to God we haven't gone too far already.

Scottman
09-28-2003, 06:13 PM
I am reminded of the conversation that "Agent Smith" had with "Morpheus" in The Matrix. He said that humans are a virus, since they are incapable of living harmoniously within their envionment. Instead, they consume the resources of an area and move on to another area. While this comparison is somewhat extreme, it is not totally without truth.

It is a sad statement, that when a resource is strained, instead of offering it a reprieve, we often rush to get as much of the remainder before someone else does. Such was the case with the offshore fishery in my "Home and Native Land". When Newfoundland's fishery was declining, foreign countries (and some local fisherment too) reduced the size of mesh in nets to be sure they could catch the smaller remaining fish. Today, there is no commercial cod fishery in Newfoundland. After 500 years of fish being a renewable resource, it was killed off in the last 50.

What killed it? My father likes to say that the single biggest contributer to it's demise was ice. How? Before freezing, all fish had to processed by hand, and was preserved by salting. It was pointless to catch more fish than you could process within a few hours, since it would spoil. Obviously this is a simplistic view, but I think that it is correct in principle. As our technology to harvest resouces has improved, we have not adopted a conservationist approach to resource management. Instead, we harvest resources based on economic principles of supply and demand -so that when a resource is short in supply, it's value goes up, and people work all the harder to get as much as they can.

What is the solution? I don't think that people change attitudes very quickly. Even though we have caused the extiction of many species, we still haven't figured out that our model of resource management is basically wrong. Education is a start. I think that Business Schools would do well to integrate a few courses in Geography/Envionmental Science, etc. into their curriculum. It might give tomorrow's Executives a wider viewpoint from which to base business decisions.

/Scottman steps off soap box.

Maro
09-28-2003, 11:13 PM
Sadly the Environmental Science world is as bad as the politicians - Like all academic fields there is much argument and backbiting . I walked out of my Degree in the final year in disgust as deviation from the "Standard" was not allowed - you would be marked down.

The sad fact is a lot of the policy is false but people are two stubborn to admit it. This then undermines the real facts which make it easier for the Politicians to ignore it.

a truly Sad Day

:surrender :surrender :surrender

Scottman
09-29-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Maro
Sadly the Environmental Science world is as bad as the politicians - Like all academic fields there is much argument and backbiting . I walked out of my Degree in the final year in disgust as deviation from the "Standard" was not allowed - you would be marked down.

The sad fact is a lot of the policy is false but people are two stubborn to admit it. This then undermines the real facts which make it easier for the Politicians to ignore it.

a truly Sad Day

:surrender :surrender :surrender I hear ya... I actually have a Science Degree in Geography (there's more to it than just knowing all the capitals ;) ) . I did a couple of courses from one instructor who was a great guy, and well educated, but he marked exams based on keywords from his lectures. You could probably put the phrase "you are full of crap" between his keywords on exams, and still get good marks. I tend not to be a memorizer, but a person who understands concepts and synthesize my own answers based on that understanding. Needless to say, my marks could have been better in his courses.

As for your comments about policy and politicians... I am reminded that in the years leading up to the demise of the Newfoundland Cod fishery, many of the small-scale, inshore, "uneducated" fishermen told politicians and scientists alike that fish stocks were declining. When your total annual catch consistently declines for a decade, you hardly need a slide rule to figure that out. The voices of the inshore fishermen were largely ignored. What was amusing to see was that when fishermen were unable to catch the total allowed by the government, the government lowered the total allowable catch to the amount that the fishermen actually caught - and tried to claim that they were making severe cuts to help preserve the species.

Maro
09-29-2003, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Scottman
I hear ya... I actually have a Science Degree in Geography (there's more to it than just knowing all the capitals ;) ) . I did a couple of courses from one instructor who was a great guy, and well educated, but he marked exams based on keywords from his lectures. You could probably put the phrase "you are full of crap" between his keywords on exams, and still get good marks. I tend not to be a memorizer, but a person who understands concepts and synthesize my own answers based on that understanding. Needless to say, my marks could have been better in his courses.

As for your comments about policy and politicians... I am reminded that in the years leading up to the demise of the Newfoundland Cod fishery, many of the small-scale, inshore, "uneducated" fishermen told politicians and scientists alike that fish stocks were declining. When your total annual catch consistently declines for a decade, you hardly need a slide rule to figure that out. The voices of the inshore fishermen were largely ignored. What was amusing to see was that when fishermen were unable to catch the total allowed by the government, the government lowered the total allowable catch to the amount that the fishermen actually caught - and tried to claim that they were making severe cuts to help preserve the species.

Hey - another Geographer! I chose Geology as my Major as Geography was my Fav at school! The first year was run in Tandem with the Physical Geography course (all my best mates are geography graduates).

An Interesting fact is that Geography graduates make up a large number of IT roles - in the UK at least. I did straw polls in all of the places I worked and 90% of us had Geography as the major component of their degree - weird!

Politicians have no interest in saving anything - sadly the Kyoto accords proove that - There is something deeply ironic about first wrold countries being able to "trade" Carbon Credits

:banghead :banghead :banghead

Artcwolf
09-29-2003, 08:01 PM
Some animals go extinct due to human's ignorance.

Some, due to nature. Such as the Cheeta and possibly, the Panda. They both have very exclusive diets that cripples their ability to adapt to the ever changing world.

Humans need not take the complete responsibility of the extinction of every animal.

Maro
09-29-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Artcwolf
Some animals go extinct due to human's ignorance.

Some, due to nature. Such as the Cheeta and possibly, the Panda. They both have very exclusive diets that cripples their ability to adapt to the ever changing world.

Humans need not take the complete responsibility of the extinction of every animal.

In part true but the ratio is heavily weighted towards undue Human interference - usually to satiate a consumer economy

:( :(

egarrard
10-02-2003, 02:40 AM
Those species just aren't tasty enough. Look at all the cows, chickens, and pigs the human population consumes. They aren't going extinct.

wazman
10-02-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Artcwolf
Some animals go extinct due to human's ignorance.

Some, due to nature. Such as the Cheeta and possibly, the Panda. They both have very exclusive diets that cripples their ability to adapt to the ever changing world.

Humans need not take the complete responsibility of the extinction of every animal.

Well, I did say we were talking about "something like this"...

I just think humans have done quite enough damage on their own to guarantee animal extinction.

efernandez_98
10-13-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Artcwolf
Some animals go extinct due to human's ignorance.

Some, due to nature. Such as the Cheeta and possibly, the Panda. They both have very exclusive diets that cripples their ability to adapt to the ever changing world.

Humans need not take the complete responsibility of the extinction of every animal. Especially the Arctwolf!