PLEASE STOP ALL THE SPAMMING - STAY ON TOPIC [Archive]

t00lb0x

10-21-2003, 05:31 PM

Understand, I am not a mod, but the amount of bad posting has gone on. Now, in off topic its totally fine and I could care less, but by spamming in the computer sections, one makes it harder to find information. My theory about the bad posting is, you guys don't know how to make a good post. Some of you are very helpful, some aren't. But please read this.
Click me! (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71298)

If the site loads slow (which sometimes it does) just go back later, you'll understand why when you view it. If you need an account, create one thats a good site and you could get some good help from there.

redphoenix

10-21-2003, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by t00lb0x
Understand, I am not a mod, but the amount of bad posting has gone on. Now, in off topic its totally fine and I could care less, but by spamming in the computer sections, one makes it harder to find information. My theory about the bad posting is, you guys don't know how to make a good post. Some of you are very helpful, some aren't. But please read this.
Click me! (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71298)

If the site loads slow (which sometimes it does) just go back later, you'll understand why when you view it. If you need an account, create one thats a good site and you could get some good help from there.

Great! Help Spam!! :Yea right No really, this should help some learn.

3dGameMan

10-21-2003, 06:03 PM

I also agree. I'm getting sick of seeing people posting pointless unrelated stuff in other areas outside of the Off Topic area. Off Topic is for this, so post SPAM, etc. in there! STAY ON TOPIC PEOPLE! Keep in mind folks come in here to read information about the TOPIC at hand, not to read page after page after page of unrelated babble.

I simply do not have the time to monitor ever post here and I trust you folks can moderate each other. What I mean by that is, posting a message saying things like "Please get back on topic" or reporting the person(s), thread(s) to me and/or my mods.

Again, STAY ON TOPIC!

bejohnson

10-21-2003, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by 3dGameMan
I also agree. I'm getting sick of seeing people posting pointless unrelated stuff in other areas outside of the Off Topic area. Off Topic is for this, so post SPAM, etc. in there! STAY ON TOPIC PEOPLE! Keep in mind folks come in here to read information about the TOPIC at hand, not to read page after page after page of unrelated babble.

I simply do not have the time to monitor ever post here and I trust you folks can moderate each other. What I mean by that is, posting a message saying things like "Please get back on topic" or reporting the person(s), thread(s) to me and/or my mods.

Again, STAY ON TOPIC!

Rodney I agree wholeheartedly. :thumb There have been several good threads that have been killed by spam. We all are guilty to some degree but it's got out of hand here recently. If the guys want to spam they can create a thread in "Off Topic" just for that.

3dGameMan

10-21-2003, 06:17 PM

Yep and the ones are at this please read my last post VERY carefully, because the hammer is about to fall on some of you here. Everyone here has put up with this SPAMMING long enough. I'm not taking about a post here and there, we all do that, but some threads a few folks keep things going and going and it's all unrelated junk that nobody who is reading the thread is interested.

Again, I ask people who see this going on to contact me and/or my mods and we will take the appreciate action.

JCYC5

10-21-2003, 06:41 PM

Is this spamming that many members read/participate/laugh at/enjoy that those not intrested can skip, as it's one dedicated thread in off topic, tolerated?

Silent_Death911

10-21-2003, 07:00 PM

ok so that takes jeff, nicon, alex, and maybe me off the 3gm forums...anyone else?

j/k......i agree.....i posted a few stuff in general hardware and some other people (who shall remain nameless ;)) who see my threads as trash make it a laughing stock........i shall keep all my spam to the off topic thread......

JCYC5

10-21-2003, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Silent_Death911
ok so that takes jeff, nicon, alex, and maybe me off the 3gm forums...anyone else?

j/k......i agree.....i posted a few stuff in general hardware and some other people (who shall remain nameless ;)) who see my threads as trash make it a laughing stock........i shall keep all my spam to the off topic thread......

That is what I don't understand right now.

My spam is placed into Off Topic and only Off Topic. Is that tolerated?

bejohnson

10-21-2003, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by JCYC5
Is this spamming that many members read/participate/laugh at/enjoy that those not intrested can skip, as it's one dedicated thread in off topic, tolerated?

Jeff a case in point is the thread that I started "Pictures of Your Job". That thread was virtually ruined by all the spam. There is maybe two pages of thread related matter and three pages of spam and other stuff. No one has posted a job area picture in 5 days. When spam gets out of control it's no longer funny but rude. Kind of like someone constantly interrupting a conversation for no reason and with nothing to add to the conversation.

bejohnson

10-21-2003, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by JCYC5
That is what I don't understand right now.

My spam is placed into Off Topic and only Off Topic. Is that tolerated?

Not so much in “Off Topic” as the thread itself. If the thread was established for a specific topic spam would be uncalled for in that thread. If you establish a thread in "Off Topic" just for grins and giggles then spam would be acceptable in that thread.

JCYC5

10-21-2003, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by bejohnson
Not so much in “Off Topic” as the thread itself. If the thread was established for a specific topic spam would be uncalled for in that thread. If you establish a thread in "Off Topic" just for grins and giggles then spam would be acceptable in that thread.

Yeah, like that new thread posted about help with the news. That wouldn't be touched by spam.

Look, it's been this way for a long time, since the old days of Digi. If a point was to be made in a thread in off topic, when the point is made, the spam comes in, still related to the topic. Thats the fun and thats why keeps the fourms alive. Had only questions and answers be tolerated, do you really think that people would every minute or so, just answering questions?

Maro

10-21-2003, 07:22 PM

I have to admit I don't like the +1 type of Spam but I don't mind an Off-Topic thread going Off-topic:)

Ed, you have to admit that you and Brandi are guilty of a little off-topicing (cute as it is)

:thumb

JCYC5

10-21-2003, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Maro
I have to admit I don't like the +1 type of Spam but I don't mind an Off-Topic thread going Off-topic:)

Ed, you have to admit that you and Brandi are guilty of a little off-topicing (cute as it is)

:thumb

I find the +1's annoying after one or two myself. Have to admit.

Tantousha's Spamnation thread, on the other hand, I find is very intresting and well worthwhile. Maybe only to be and a few other individuals, but I really find that thread has a tremendous ability to show what fun we have here doing to. Participants enjoy it, being able to talk to people they normally won't be able to, and the topic of it constantly changes. I find it really lifts the spirit of this place.

bejohnson

10-21-2003, 07:27 PM

bejohnson

10-21-2003, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Maro
I have to admit I don't like the +1 type of Spam but I don't mind an Off-Topic thread going Off-topic:)

Ed, you have to admit that you and Brandi are guilty of a little off-topicing (cute as it is)

:thumb

As I said we all make BS post but usually limit them to a couple and then it's bake on topic. As Rodney said though lately it's been really bad in some of the threads. No one expects any thread not to have humor at times.

bejohnson

10-21-2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by JCYC5
I find the +1's annoying after one or two myself. Have to admit.

Tantousha's Spamnation thread, on the other hand, I find is very intresting and well worthwhile. Maybe only to be and a few other individuals, but I really find that thread has a tremendous ability to show what fun we have here doing to. Participants enjoy it, being able to talk to people they normally won't be able to, and the topic of it constantly changes. I find it really lifts the spirit of this place.

That's what I'm referring to. A thread specificly for that type of post and yes they can be and are fun.

redphoenix

10-21-2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by bejohnson
An off the cuff remark that's remotely related to the subject is OK. We all make smarta** post occasionally. That's called levity. But pages and pages of smiley faces, thumbs and the like with remarks that have nothing to do with the thread topic is wrong. If that kind of material is desired than start a BS thread and don’t trash up one that has a definite topic.

Agreed. Its not like doing smilies is wrong or anything, but when it makes up the majority of the post it gets annoying.

Like on a few...

person A: Blah blah this is my new system, results etc..
person B: :) :jawsdown :jawsdown :Holy Crap :Holy Crap :Holy Crap :Wink :Wink :Wink :Wink :luxhello :luxhello :luxhello :thumb :thumb :thumb :thumb :thumb

(seen MANY times)
does that REALLY help get it moving along? No. How about.
Person B: Wow nice reuslts, whats your voltages at, or what Windows Tweaks if any are you using? How much of a improvment from OC'ing and not.

^ That gets the ball rolling ( so to speak ) faster than millions of emoticons.
Hm Personal though of course...;)

Maro

10-21-2003, 07:35 PM

I was only teasing Ed!

Much as I hate the flame wars that arise from them, I enjoy the political threads - beig from a different country makes it more interesting!

I went away for the weekend and when I came back there were no "Serious" threads on the first two pages that were not SPAMMED

I'm not picking on anyone, but 99% of my posts are to say something - I have been posting for over a year but am still at a low post compared to people who joined 6 moths ago

JCYC5

10-21-2003, 07:36 PM

JCYC5

10-21-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by redphoenix
Agreed. Its not like doing smilies is wrong or anything, but when it makes up the majority of the post it gets annoying.

Like on a few...

person A: Blah blah this is my new system, results etc..
person B: :) :jawsdown :jawsdown :Holy Crap :Holy Crap :Holy Crap :Wink :Wink :Wink :Wink :luxhello :luxhello :luxhello :thumb :thumb :thumb :thumb :thumb

(seen MANY times)
does that REALLY help get it moving along? No. How about.
Person B: Wow nice reuslts, whats your voltages at, or what Windows Tweaks if any are you using? How much of a improvment from OC'ing and not.

^ That gets the ball rolling ( so to speak ) faster than millions of emoticons.
Hm Personal though of course...;)

Well, I am guilty of doing a few ":thumb :thumb " as a reply to a decent photograph...

Maro

10-21-2003, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by JCYC5
Well, I am guilty of doing a few ":thumb :thumb " as a reply to a decent photograph...

I think everyone knows the score - we all just need to respect the thread - i.e. don;t kill a person's thread if it is not a Spamathon

:thumb

(Smilies with text is ok!)

redphoenix

10-21-2003, 07:43 PM

Well understand but seriously, I think some people thinks its all about the amount of posts you have that makes you a good informative person.

3dGameMan

10-21-2003, 07:44 PM

I'm not sure this is the case but maybe some people are SPAMMING simply to get free case badges or maybe a 3GM addict shirt? Maybe I should remove this reward for posting. Although let’s be clear out this, no one will be getting either if all they do is SPAM. I offered these free items not as a license to SPAM but rather a reward for adding valuable content to this forum. Post count is one thing but when it’s 99% SPAM it means very little. I’m not saying don’t to have a few threads where you can let loose and have one word replies, or that type of thing, etc..

Again, I expect you folks to moderate yourselves as much as you can. Report people, threads to me or my mods.

JCYC5

10-21-2003, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by 3dGameMan
I'm not sure this is the case but maybe some people are SPAMMING simply to get free case badges or maybe a 3GM addict shirt? Maybe I should remove this reward for posting. Although let’s be clear out this, no one will be getting either if all they do is SPAM. I offered these free items not as a license to SPAM but rather a reward for adding valuable content to this forum. Post count is one thing but when it’s 99% SPAM it means very little. I’m not saying don’t to have a few threads where you can let loose and have one word replies, or that type of thing, etc..

Again, I expect you folks to moderate yourselves as much as you can. Report people, threads to me or my mods.

Honestly, Rodney, you can reset my post count and I'd still be posting here like I am now... I'm here not for anything else, but the people I've gotten to know so well and respect as well as being able to call them a friend.

Maro

10-21-2003, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by 3dGameMan
I'm not sure this is the case but maybe some people are SPAMMING simply to get free case badges or maybe a 3GM addict shirt? Maybe I should remove this reward for posting. Although let’s be clear out this, no one will be getting either if all they do is SPAM. I offered these free items not as a license to SPAM but rather a reward for adding valuable content to this forum. Post count is one thing but when it’s 99% SPAM it means very little. I’m not saying don’t to have a few threads where you can let loose and have one word replies, or that type of thing, etc..

Again, I expect you folks to moderate yourselves as much as you can. Report people, threads to me or my mods.

Not me - no deliveries to Aus :( :(

As I mentioned - very littel Spam in my posts - just happy for the community spirit - appeals to the hippy in me:thumb

redphoenix

10-21-2003, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by 3dGameMan
I'm not sure this is the case but maybe some people are SPAMMING simply to get free case badges or maybe a 3GM addict shirt? Maybe I should remove this reward for posting. Although let’s be clear out this, no one will be getting either if all they do is SPAM. I offered these free items not as a license to SPAM but rather a reward for adding valuable content to this forum. Post count is one thing but when it’s 99% SPAM it means very little. I’m not saying don’t to have a few threads where you can let loose and have one word replies, or that type of thing, etc..

Again, I expect you folks to moderate yourselves as much as you can. Report people, threads to me or my mods.

Oh yeah forgot about the badges... *checks to see if I have 2200 posts..* email you later about it http://24.92.200.72/upload/xmouth.jpg lol

Same applied to me, if you did remove mine, i'd be posting still... Please dont I feel high and mighty lol.

But once again, people TRY to moderate yourself, it makes us have less headaches.

t00lb0x

10-21-2003, 07:55 PM

I try to post to help, also, sadly I feel like my post count helps my creditabilty. For example, it makes me feel like I'm worth it :) But then again, i rarely spam (unlike this one)

JCYC5

10-21-2003, 07:56 PM

I'm really not in it for anything... I gave me badges to TGM as it was her birthday... and I don't think I really can get anything being over here in hong Kong...

Maro

10-21-2003, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by JCYC5
I'm really not in it for anything... I gave me badges to TGM as it was her birthday... and I don't think I really can get anything being over here in hong Kong...

Exactly - a community

Silent_Death911

10-21-2003, 08:23 PM

Silent_Death911

10-21-2003, 08:27 PM

cont from last post....

omg....i'm sooooo confused. just answer this plain out jeff. where do you life? toronto or hong kong?

yeah....i really didn't know about the free case badge thing untill i had like 600 posts or something like that. i dont spam (at least i dont think i do) and im just here because i cant talk freely about this stuff in real life.....and thats the magic behind these forums. whatever the problem, there is always someone here to help you out (also because u will never see these people in real life so...what the hell).

and i hate to burst the bubble of such a great thread but i see trouble on the horizon....most likely a constant back and forth flame war on what is spam and what isnt and who is to blame.....just see it coming.....

*RIP Spam King*

http://3dgameman.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=199806

Maniacmous

10-21-2003, 10:22 PM

I think that some people post a bunch of crap in order to get the case badges, but I think many many more just try to get the high post counts in order to demand some sort of respect out of people with fewer posts...I think someone mentioned this before...but I respect someone more with 100 posts that are all meaningful and helpful over someone with even 10k posts that are useless (yes, I know only Efer has 10K here, and I'm not even gonna have the balls to say his are crap, because he does a whole lotta good here...just trying to make a point).

I am with the others...at this point, I stay because of the people here, and really don't care a whole lot about the badges (though I did leave the spot open on the front of my case for one if ever I get it). I just hope that at the end of the day I receive the same high level of respect as I give to the others here, because you are all a family of sorts to me, and your opinions do hold weight. That said, if I am in any way crap...feel free to PM me, let me know, I'll try a fix.

Anywho, back to the point at hand...spam, while sometimes fun, is a serious drag to a legit thread...and I agree we should curtail it (if I do it...someone break out a large trout). :thumb

marko3xl3

10-21-2003, 10:47 PM

First off, Eferz (the good guy he is) merged some of out "spamathons" into one thread. I hope people do realize that and try to keep it that way.

Right now, thinking about it, I think that too many of my posts were rather useless. Maybe 50/50. When I firsted joined, I always posted useful posts, and only useful posts. But at some point that changed. I sometimes engaged in spam-a-thons because of the fun and sadly make a 50+ posts in one of them. Personally I don't care about the case badges as much.

I think this is a co-incidence but just a couple of days before this thread, I started to feel badly about spamming myself after the last spam-a-thon. I decided to post more useful posts and just check out every now and then. I think there is about 5 people to look up to who really (hands down) post 3 paragraph posts EVERY TIME.

I don't wanna lie, so I will say that if my post count was reset, I would keep posting of course...but I would be grouchy. As t00lbox said. Post counts (usually) give you the pride and make you stand out in the forum. New commers will listen to people with higher post counts rather than people with low ones, one more reason I think the post count is supposed to me maximum 10% spam.

Think I said everything for now ;)

PS: I will try and engage and help out a little to reduce the spam :)

wazman

10-21-2003, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by t00lb0x
But please read this.
Click me! (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71298)

Somebody copy that puppy over here and sticky it.

t00lb0x

10-21-2003, 10:54 PM

See, I knew it should be stickied but didn't know what to say. But not the rest of this, just that sticky and lock it. Its very well written.

wazman

10-21-2003, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by JCYC5
Yeah, like that new thread posted about help with the news. That wouldn't be touched by spam.

Look, it's been this way for a long time, since the old days of Digi. If a point was to be made in a thread in off topic, when the point is made, the spam comes in, still related to the topic. Thats the fun and thats why keeps the fourms alive. Had only questions and answers be tolerated, do you really think that people would every minute or so, just answering questions?

But Digi's gone now, and there's a lot of people here now that aren't like he was, or we are - those of us who were here when he was.

Now, I'm not saying ban anyone. But it does seem to me that the same 6-10 people are always starting spam-a-thons, and filling up page after page with mindless posts, all over. I think you know who I'm talking about. A couple of these people have been here for quite a while, and a couple more just joined up in the last week. I'm not going to name names, but I have to admit it does get boring seeing the same names in every thread on Off Topic for page after page.

I'm not saying "Ban them! Ban them!" I'm just asking everyone who posts here - whether they have 12 posts or 12,000 - to try to be a little more aware of what they're posting. Remember - Rodney pays for the disk space for the forums and the bandwidth for us to use them - is it fair to him to see every thread in Off Topic descend into a spamfest?

That's all I'm saying. Just let's all (myself included) try to be a little more aware of what we're doing here. Work for everyone? Good. :)

wazman

10-21-2003, 11:01 PM

Perhaps one way to fix this would be to knock a certain number of posts off someone's count if they're found guilty of spamming. Like if you get to 2200 and Rod says "Sorry, spammer", instead of making that person post another 100 posts to get to 3200, they should have their post count reduced by 1000, so that they have to get to 2200 again.

Same with people that have passed that point.

Just a suggestion.

marko3xl3

10-21-2003, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by wazman
Perhaps one way to fix this would be to knock a certain number of posts off someone's count if they're found guilty of spamming. Like if you get to 2200 and Rod says "Sorry, spammer", instead of making that person post another 100 posts to get to 3200, they should have their post count reduced by 1000, so that they have to get to 2200 again.

Same with people that have passed that point.

Just a suggestion.

Good suggestion, but I think it would be too much work for Rodney and there would be a lot of contraverisies about it and it would give the whole forum a bad reputation.

I think we should just start paying attention to spam more and then as time goes on we should see less spam and more "true, clean" post counts.

3dGameMan

10-21-2003, 11:43 PM

All that needs to happen is people watch out for the few individuals who are at it all the time and then report them. Let me/my mods deal with the situation and beleive me we will. So please stop complaining about the SPAM and help us fight it. SPAMMING the hell out of threads is over and I expect everyone to help :thumb

SPo0n

10-22-2003, 04:30 AM

I post on quite a few forums and it seems the best way to cut down 'spam' is to remove post counts for the 'spamming' sections such as off topic. it's quite a simple mod to do on a forum.

redphoenix

10-22-2003, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by lord nicon21
i'll help i'll help me me pick me (me jumping up and down )

:Roll Eyes :Roll Eyes :Roll Eyes :Roll Eyes where is the spam i can't see any spam

lol....
I remeber when I had 1300 post's and you only 300ish
I just saw how many you have now, lol

bejohnson

10-22-2003, 02:41 PM

bump

redphoenix

10-22-2003, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by lord nicon21
lol yeah i like posting

I see that, more than 32 post per day

wazman

10-22-2003, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by lord nicon21
Jei-sama post more than me tho with 36.00 posts per day :jawsdown

Thank you for making my point for me... :)

Tivon

10-22-2003, 03:53 PM

I've been reading and just wanted to spew out my views.:rolleyes:

Okay..

1. People like to chat. If they don't have anything to say then
they use a Smilies. I think this is normal, so long as 30 people
don't use them at the same time.

2. People do sway off topics. I think it's normal for someone
to bring up another subject that is not related, so long as
it's relevant in some way. Chanting about your mother hates
to wash your pants for 3 pages, in someone’s bench marking
thread is rude, there are PM's for this!

3. People telling Mods there is Off Topic Spam might be a waste of
their time. Sure if they are being rude after you ask them to stay
on topic, do what you must. Then again, maybe people should
just keep posting what is on topic and act like those other people
are not there. They should get the hint when no one else is going
to read their SPAM.

4. Anything that gets posted in Off-Topics is going to face 70%
SPAM related fill in chat. I've been in Chats that have 100+ pages
and they where able to stay on topic... But only with the help
of the Mods.

5. One line reply's are normal.. "Hey, man.. Where have you been?"
Then again, "+1 Yo" "+2 Yo man" "+3 Yo Dude"
Now this is something that probably ticks off most people.

6. The "+1" should not be used as away to get your name in
on a joke. I don't care if you think the post was funny. Sadly
for this most will add, "+1 Haha!" It's not the "+1" that should
be looked down on. It's the way the "+1" is being used!!!
Like this, "LOL... HEHE.. man that was so funny, I'll have to
remember that one! +1." The "+1" effect should be used like
a Smilies, not as half the reply of your post!

"+1" = To associate with Spam, To Increase Post Count.

The "+1" is NOT to be taken badly! It is used as a writing tone
modifier. It simply will adjust the readers mindset of the post in general
to recognize that this post was done all-in-good-fun and not to be
taken seriously.

+1! :Wink

t00lb0x

10-22-2003, 04:45 PM

When you use yellow I thought you were Rodney for once, got confuseed until I read who posted it :jawsdown

Tivon

10-22-2003, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by t00lb0x
When you use yellow I thought you were Rodney for once, got confuseed until I read who posted it :jawsdown

Well, it looks like someone didn't like me using yellow, which is odd? Then again I DID NOT WANT WHITE!!:mad:

This would be Rod:
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><font color="yellow">

I didn't use a Font Size #2 or a Bold font... So I can't see why
anyone would think Rodney had posted?

JohnathanJones

10-22-2003, 10:29 PM

I am the first to admit. I do get out of hand and off topic somtimes but, I will help and try harder to keep the forum "healthy so to speak". When I do get out of hand PM me and "Rip my Head Off" and I won't get angry because somtimes I can be wrong and it feels better to admit I'm wrong sorry if I caused any trouble (If any).

Thanks! :thumb

SNAFU

10-23-2003, 03:19 AM

Yah, I also got hooked on all the OT spam. It's just so darn addictive! But about a month-and-a-half ago when I realized I hit 23 posts per day, I actually freaked out and got angry at myself for spamming even though I'm sure that it wasn't all spam. And I even cut down on my posts. Now, my first stop whenever I visit the forums is actually either the general hardware or overclocking forums to see if I can help out. then once I finish reading all the posts there, then I mosey on to the OT forums. I've been trying to be good. Heck, I don't care about the badges...I can buy them with my own money! (heh...that's a crock of bull! j/k! :lmao ) But I love these forums and it's the first forum that I ever gotten really involved. Luv ya guys! :heartbeat :luxhello :heartbeat

efernandez_98

10-23-2003, 07:46 AM

My 2 cents.

I believe that every thread is going to go off topic sooner or later. It's like any conversation in real life; personally, I believe it is the onus for the thread starter to keep their thread on topic - if they care for it. If it comes to a point, where they are unable to then report the post to a moderator. I have split and merged many of threads because the thread starter or forum member were frustrated.

JCYC5

10-23-2003, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by efernandez_98
My 2 cents.

I believe that every thread is going to go off topic sooner or later. It's like any conversation in real life; personally, I believe it is the onus for the thread starter to keep their thread on topic - if they care for it. If it comes to a point, where they are unable to then report the post to a moderator. I have split and merged many of threads because the thread starter or forum member were frustrated.

But I think that if a thread starter lets his/her thread go off topic, he or she doesn't need the comments anymore. Had they still have unanswered questions, they would bring it back on topic. It is really hard to keep a thread on topic...

JCYC5

10-23-2003, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by lord nicon21
i don't think you can keep a thread on topic all that time

But I think that if your thread was a help thread went-off-topic and you still needed help, members would be nice enough to get back on topic...

t00lb0x

10-23-2003, 04:43 PM

Look, most of you are talking about spamming in the OT. Thats fine, and its not the point I made for this thread. The point I was trying to make was in the Computer Related section. Its okay to say "good job, thats a great mod keep it up" or "Wow great overclock." Its okay to spam in OT I believe. The problem is when you get post replies like "yes :D" or "thats good stuff" A good post should be "The IC7-G is known for good overclocking and decent out of the box performance. Some members here aren't having good overclocks, hitting a wall at 245MHZ set at 1:1. Also, the Max2 is known is known for its bad northbridge fan. You can check out Rodney's review here (insert link here)" Thats a good damn post and is very helpful. Just read the link I posted on front.

Rodney, could this thread be deleated and a better one written, being more specific (hand written, no link.) And then have that stickied and locked?

SPo0n

10-24-2003, 07:49 AM

How about removing 'old' threads that are say 1 week old automatically? Other forums i post on have this kind of system aswell as no post counts in the 'spammy' forums, works a treat.

Artcwolf

10-24-2003, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by SPo0n
How about removing 'old' threads that are say 1 week old automatically? Other forums i post on have this kind of system aswell as no post counts in the 'spammy' forums, works a treat.

Removing some threads would kill some good reference material so I don't think that is a truely viable option.

If you take away the post count in the OT area, then the spammers might move to one of the other areas of the forum to get their post counts.

Just my $0.02 and it might not be worth a flip.

SPo0n

10-24-2003, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Artcwolf
Removing some threads would kill some good reference material so I don't think that is a truely viable option.

If you take away the post count in the OT area, then the spammers might move to one of the other areas of the forum to get their post counts.

Just my $0.02 and it might not be worth a flip.

"reference material"? i've never seen anything of use in the OT forum. it's all "what colour is your mum's car", or "how many times do you blink a day?"

bejohnson

10-24-2003, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by SPo0n
"reference material"? i've never seen anything of use in the OT forum. it's all "what colour is your mum's car", or "how many times do you blink a day?"

The new Photography section is full of reference material so is the Favorite Recipes thread. There are lots of things in the "Off Topic" area that is worth saving. There are threads in the "Off Topic" area that should not be spammed also. Any thread that has a specific topic and purpose should be left alone. If you want to spam do it in one of the threads that has no serious or specific topic, like the "Bride of Darth Fetish" that I started just for grins and giggles. It is not a serious or specific topic thread so spam away.

Guys you have to think a bit and use some common sense. If a thread has a topic of comparing test photos from different lenses in photography, don't spam it. If a specific topic thread has no activity because the subject or question was answered don't spam it. Leave it for reference and start a spam thread. That is the point that is trying to be made. Just act with a little maturity and think before you spam.

JCYC5

10-24-2003, 11:31 AM

egarrard

10-24-2003, 09:44 PM

Welcome to The Short-Attention-Span Forums! :rofl2

Or is it "ADD-R-US"?

wazman

10-24-2003, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by bejohnson
The new Photography section is full of reference material so is the Favorite Recipes thread. There are lots of things in the "Off Topic" area that is worth saving. There are threads in the "Off Topic" area that should not be spammed also. Any thread that has a specific topic and purpose should be left alone. If you want to spam do it in one of the threads that has no serious or specific topic, like the "Bride of Darth Fetish" that I started just for grins and giggles. It is not a serious or specific topic thread so spam away.

Guys you have to think a bit and use some common sense. If a thread has a topic of comparing test photos from different lenses in photography, don't spam it. If a specific topic thread has no activity because the subject or question was answered don't spam it. Leave it for reference and start a spam thread. That is the point that is trying to be made. Just act with a little maturity and think before you spam.

You make a good point here.

The Off Topic section is, in my opinion, a place for us to go just to enjoy the camaraderie of being part of this whole site. We can pretty much say anything we want there (within the rules, of course) - we can vent if we need to, we can encourage, and yes, at times we can disagree strongly. But it's the one place here where pretty much everything goes, and who knows - some offhand remark somebody drops in a thread may be just the thing somebody else needed to hear, or be just the opinion they needed.

Off Topic should not become Spam City. I don't enjoy reading a thread that after post #5 goes on for 17 pages about thongs or sparrows or such. But just because not every post in Off Topic is not CNN material doesn't mean that what's in there is worthless.

Another way Rodney could have handled this was to say, "OK, Off Topic is closed. Stick to the specific forums you need to use, and if you spam again, you'll be banned." Sort of how [H]ardOCP or whatever runs their site - people get banned left, right, and center over there. He could have done that. Or he could have just automatically deleted 1000 posts from everyone's post count. Or something like that.

Instead, he's just saying, "I trust you as members of this forum to respect the rules of the forums, to think about what you post before you post it, and to be adult and handle things if they get out of hand." In essence, he's telling us he trusts us to set our own boundaries. I don't think it's that much to ask.

I mean, there've been more than one thread where I could have posted just to jump my post count. But if that's all I did, what good would I be? We all bring something to this forum, and we're all bright enough to know what's appropriate and what isn't.

From the gut.

ChKFlores

10-25-2003, 03:18 PM

Here's what I have to say about this:

Does anyone realize that they are new members joining the forums everyday and why they almost completely avoid the 'Off topic' section?

My point is this: Post and/or reply ONCE. Don't expect one person or more to reply to a thread/post and respond to that. Also, we've all gone off base and do just that. We can forgive, but at times not forget. Sure, the flame wars, bickering, and useless crap still go on. But what's going through my mind is when is enough ENOUGH? Does Rodney need to work on Saturday just so that he can ensure the forums are REGULATED for everyone's use? I believe no one here wants to hear "Turn out the lights, the party's over".

Vector Man

10-27-2003, 09:02 AM

Wow, finally someone says something. This is why I don't post as much, the spam has gotten highly rediculous. How many posts about people making it to their 100th post do we have to see?

Oh well, good luck anyway.

residentevil3

10-31-2003, 04:17 PM

anyone who spamms for a case badge must be insaine lol..

I always try to make my posts count.

eyegoldeneye

11-02-2003, 03:09 AM

for all those still monitoring this post has anyone taken a look @ the link on the first post.... although extremely intelligent in this guideline the man was banned from an OCing forum...lol..not to bash the idea of his comment

thephenom

11-02-2003, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by lord nicon21
i don't think you can keep a thread on topic all that time
The babes thread was on-topic 99% of the time.:devil

Ringthane

11-02-2003, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by thephenom
The babes thread was on-topic 99% of the time.:devil

And a good topic it was.

JCYC5

11-08-2003, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by thephenom
The babes thread was on-topic 99% of the time.:devil

Oh dear God, how I miss that thread...

zgozz

12-11-2003, 12:36 PM

Does it get that bad?:Holy Crap

redphoenix

12-11-2003, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by zgozz
Does it get that bad?:Holy Crap

Yeah it does unfortunatly. This is such a great place too. On top of the duplicated threads too.

zgozz

12-11-2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by redphoenix
Yeah it does unfortunatly. This is such a great place too. On top of the duplicated threads too.
I deal with that on my buddy forum.
But maybe there need to be more mods////:cool_shad

splashtech

12-25-2003, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by lord nicon21
yeah hint hint :devil i'm here if you need me :devil

Hahahahahaha! You as a mod!!! :rofl2 :lmao :rofl2 :lmao :rofl2 :lmao

splashtech

12-25-2003, 04:12 PM

Hehehe ;)

t00lb0x

12-25-2003, 07:59 PM

Its ironic, my thread about spamming has been overcome with spam!

redphoenix

12-25-2003, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by t00lb0x
Its ironic, my thread about spamming has been overcome with spam!

People just don't get it do they?

weldzilla

01-08-2004, 06:13 PM

Drop the hammer on some of these people it could not hurt!!

WZ

ch0g0nda

01-13-2004, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by weldzilla
Drop the hammer on some of these people it could not hurt!!

WZ What about you and those incredibly rude outbursts you have in the hardware sections?

t00lb0x

01-13-2004, 07:42 PM

Can you point me to some specific thread or at least point Rodney in the direction. Maybe the hammer could drop.

t00lb0x

02-06-2004, 07:10 PM

New mods?
(not to replace but add more?)

The forum is getting pretty big.

wazman

02-06-2004, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by t00lb0x
New mods?
(not to replace but add more?)

The forum is getting pretty big.

I'll do it... I'm here all the time anyway.

t00lb0x

02-06-2004, 07:48 PM

Talk to Rodney, I hope he sees this thread. He could give us the yes or no on this new idea.

(btw, youd make a great mod :) )

wazman

02-06-2004, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by t00lb0x
Talk to Rodney, I hope he sees this thread. He could give us the yes or no on this new idea.

(btw, youd make a great mod :) )

Thank you! :)

I wonder where all the mods are these days... I haven't seen them post in a long time.

t00lb0x

02-07-2004, 02:14 PM

I'll e-mail Rodney, or maybe one of you guys could.

t00lb0x

02-07-2004, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by lord nicon21
well i'v see eferz and scott about think but there needs to be more :Nice
Dude you type way to fast and makes little sense.

Should we make a thread (vote thread) to see if we need a 1 or 2 more mods?

splashtech

02-07-2004, 05:08 PM

Yeah I agree.... more well chosen mods.

This is off the top of my head here... just quickly. But a couple of people who in opinion would be good mods are Wazman, bljohnson and egarrard.

Maybe a thread about this should be started....!?

redphoenix

02-07-2004, 05:14 PM

actually like 2 that are here a lot. The others are not here as much as they should be.

Maniacmous

02-07-2004, 05:18 PM

Personally, I'd love the job...the one major issue with that though is post count...I don't think I've been here long enough to get to know everyone enough that they'd trust me. Not to mention my age...I don't think I could expect anyone in their right minds to sign off on making me a moderator, which is to be expected, nor would I hold a grudge over something like that.

t00lb0x

02-07-2004, 05:52 PM

The problem is getting someone who knows a lot about computers and can tell whats right from wrong.

I think Wazman is here enough and defenitly knows the boundries of what can and can't be said.

The problem I see with bljohnson is I don't see him in the hardware sections very much.

Maybe mods should be mods for what they are good at. Like a mod of the gaming section who just games non-stop.

Etc. Someone post a poll. I think Rod becomes pissed at me because I try to change things to often :)

wazman

02-07-2004, 08:31 PM

Thanks, guys!

But I don't know if Rodney would go for that - he seems to be pretty happy status-quo wise. And I don't know if he'd consider me worthy - I've had my share of confrontations around here...

But I'm honored that you all think I'd be good at it. Maybe someday... If it would ever happen, it would be up to Rod though.

I do think we could use one or two extra mods... Maybe I should just get one of them to sit next to me and just smack me upside the head whenever I'm about to post something stupid... :)

t00lb0x

02-07-2004, 09:02 PM

Waz we would be lucky to have you as a mod :)

(and this is coming from an ******* ;) )

wazman

02-07-2004, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Whisp[TR]
i thought thats what wazlady is for heheehehh

Well, yeah... That is true. :)

splashtech

02-08-2004, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by t00lb0x
Waz we would be lucky to have you as a mod :)

Yes, I agree. Probably one of the best suited for it around here in my opinion.

Although I still think bejohnson (yes I typed it right this time) and egarrard would also be good for the job. Maybe all of them?

zgozz

02-15-2004, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by t00lb0x
Waz we would be lucky to have you as a mod :)

(and this is coming from an ******* ;) )

I agree.

Oh I spamed. LOL

But no IMO he would be a great MOD.

Maro

02-19-2004, 12:44 AM

My 5 cents:

Originally posted by Maro
There are a lot of issues here.

Rod, if you look at the Moderators on the Faces page, hardly any of them are posting anymore. Realsitically there is a need for more current mods. Also these Mods don't need to be harsh, they need to be magnanimous. Look at my Cheers thread - Ed and Whisp were getting along fine in there and yet it was closed without warning. There always used to be a warnign when threads were in danger of "going over the edge". Why has this stopped.

It might sound like a hard-luck story from us but we can only follow the rules that are advertised - if the rules are changed (see above example) we cannot know and likewise cannot change quickly enough to prevent the thread from being closed.

I also think it is ironic that my thread about my first thread being closed got closed as well - am I jinxed? Admittedly the first thread was contenctious but I thought we were all able to discuss like adults. After the shock of having it closed, the Cheers thread appeared to be a shift towards more responsible discourse - then it was closed?:Sigh

Now with respect to Post count. Total post count does NOT signify ability or seniority. I joined on the same day as Jeff - look at the difference in Post Counts. The difference? Jeff is at school and I have to work. I may have missed a few "Spamathons" but that doesn't detract from Jeff's posts. Likewise my lower count doesn't mean I am less relevant. (Ihope not anyway!):rofl2

Here is a suggestion. I usually shy away form positions like this but I am suggesting myself as a possible MOD (man ai sound like a politician!:jawsdown )

The main reasons are:

I am not from the USA or CAN so can remain impartial to those debates.

I tend to post at a different time to most of you North American guys due to Time Zone differences. This allows me to read a lot of contentious posts with a bit of hindsight - without the heatedness of a participant. (but I am also around when things are getting hot).

This is just a suggestion - I am sure if I want to even do it - let's say I am being altruistic as I woudn't want to see the Off Topic section closed to everyone.

Also if any new Mods are "Elected" they should recind the role if work or social pressures become too much for them to post regularly.

Just my 2 AUS cents!

Remember, as always:

PEACE!

:thumb

Post Count shouldn NOT count.

I am merely trying to find a solution.

:thumb

Maro

02-19-2004, 01:43 AM

Actually I take it back - I will be no good as I have lost the ability to spell!

I wrote that originally at work earlier and it appeared to make sense - now it doesn't.

:confused:

Actually I am just curious as to what Rod thinks about the whole issue - he has been quiet since removing Off-Topic was mooted?

wazman

02-19-2004, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Maro
Actually I take it back - I will be no good as I have lost the ability to spell!

I wrote that originally at work earlier and it appeared to make sense - now it doesn't.

:confused:

Actually I am just curious as to what Rod thinks about the whole issue - he has been quiet since removing Off-Topic was mooted?

So are you saying post count should count?

I'm sorta confused now.

3dGameMan

02-19-2004, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by Maro
...

Actually I am just curious as to what Rod thinks about the whole issue - he has been quiet since removing Off-Topic was mooted?

I posted this in the "Off Topic area might be closed for good (http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=21619)" thread:

"...
As for more mods…
Sure that can be done; however, where will that lead? Personally, I’m a fairly understanding and caring guy and I try my best to see even the oddest behavior in its own light. I also believe in giving people a chance because everyone can have a bad day, months, etc. Having mods that will restrict/ban people for every little thing will lead into a direction I don’t want to go. I rather close Off Topic down then have to deal with these fools directly or have my mods try and deal with them (mods will still need to contact me for assistance on these matters).

As you can see it’s a tricky issue and one that has no real solution to satisfy everyone. Let’s see how it goes over the next few months."~3dGameMan.com