i got my call coming, from u know who

[KaNaDiAnIcEmAn]

what to say what to say....

[wazman]

I dunno what to say because I do not understand this.

[thephenom]

Originally posted by wazman
I dunno what to say because I do not understand this.
He had a thread earlier showing he uses like 100GB Download a month and like 50GB Upload.

Now he finally got a warning letter from his ISP about excessive usage.

[Tivon]

Originally posted by KaNaDiAnIcEmAn
what to say what to say....

Downloading too much porn? :devil

[thephenom]

Tell them you got 5000 worms on your computer chewing up bandwidth and you cannot afford anti-virus cause broadband cost too much.:lmao :rofl2

[Raedwulf]

Oh come on, you can trust assistance.cgy@sjrb.ca ;)

[[CD.o.S] LukeDG]

Originally posted by thephenom
Tell them you got 5000 worms on your computer chewing up bandwidth and you cannot afford anti-virus cause broadband cost too much.:lmao :rofl2

:lmao :rofl2 :lmao

I'm definatly gonna use that if BT ever contact me over high bandwidth usage

[Tivon]

That's BS...Virus my ARS! If they are asking you about high usage, odds are they already know what Peer-to-Peer programs you are using. :devil

[Tazmanian Devil]

Originally posted by Tivon
That's BS...Virus my ARS! If they are asking you about high usage, odds are they already know what Peer-to-Peer programs you are using. :devil

And how about what's been downloaded?

[Raedwulf]

It the amount of bandwidth all the spam that telus is passing on to him

I use them too... I get 40+ messages a day... all of it spam:mad:
Sure I can set up filters... but then my 'trashcan' needs emptying... a real pain in the butt

[thephenom]

Originally posted by Tazmanian Devil
And how about what's been downloaded?
I don't think it's legal for them to spy on you and see what you're downloading.

[Tivon]

Originally posted by thephenom
I don't think it's legal for them to spy on you and see what you're downloading.

They don't need to spy on anyone, there is software being used today that tells them kazaa or just about any other program is being used. We use this at the schools to cut down on peer to peer file servers. Trust me it works so well you would be blocked and a letter would be sent out. They have a rule here about "NO PEER to PEER". First strike and you are cut off for a few the days. Second time you are cut off forever. If that was not bad enough, the same systems will shut you down if they find a computer with a virus sending out scans. They might even send out a guy to pull the plug.

I'm sure when you sign the DSL/Cable sign-up forms they have just about every right under the sun, even to spy.

I'm sure he just went over his limit and they wanted to tell him backoff the kazaa or else be hardcapped.

[Tazmanian Devil]

Originally posted by Tivon
I'm sure when you sign the DSL/Cable sign-up forms they have just about every right under the sun, even to spy.

spying to the extent of seeing what peer to peer program are used or to the extent of seeing what is transferred with these programs?

[Tivon]

Originally posted by Tazmanian Devil
spying to the extent of seeing what peer to peer program are used or to the extent of seeing what is transferred with these programs?

I'd not call it spying.. that would be more like what a hacker would do. It's their servers and odds are they have computers keeping track of known ports.

[KaNaDiAnIcEmAn]

im using bit torrent to upload essential mixes, that are free, and are recorded off the radio in britain

as for the service they say it is unlimited internet access. so, why are you calling me?

i looked at their policy and it states this



You agree to comply with the policies respecting permitted and prohibited use of the Service as may be posted from time to time online at https://secure.shaw.ca/policy/Use-Policy.asp (the "Acceptable Use Policy"). Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree not to:

section e

upload, post, publish, deface, modify, transmit, reproduce, or distribute in any way, information, software or other material obtained through the Service which is protected by copyright, or other proprietary right, or related derivative works, without obtaining permission of the copyright owner or right holder;

[Tazmanian Devil]

Originally posted by KaNaDiAnIcEmAn
im using bit torrent to upload essential mixes, that are free, and are recorded off the radio in britain

as for the service they say it is unlimited internet access. so, why are you calling me?

i looked at their policy and it states this

I guess they sent you that email because they can't monitor what is actually being transferred so they assumed it was copyrighted material.

Maybe?

[Artcwolf]

Originally posted by KaNaDiAnIcEmAn
im using bit torrent to upload essential mixes, that are free, and are recorded off the radio in britain

as for the service they say it is unlimited internet access. so, why are you calling me?

i looked at their policy and it states this


Bandwidth, Data Storage and Other Limitation

You must comply with the current bandwidth, data storage and other limitations on the Services.

Users must ensure that their activity does not improperly restrict, inhibit or degrade any other customer’s use of the Services, nor represent (in the sole judgement of Shaw) an unusually large burden on the network itself, such as, but not limited to, peer to peer file sharing programs, serving streaming video or audio, mail, http, ftp, irc, dhcp servers, and multi-user interactive forums. The guidelines for Bandwidth Usage/month for each business service package are the following: SOHO - 50 GigaByte; Professional - 70 GigaByte; Business - 100 GigaByte (combined download and upload). The guidelines for acceptable web site traffic include 300 MegaByte/month for Professional and 500 MegaByte/month for Business hosting packages. Residential services do not have specific guidelines of this nature as the Service is not intended for business applications. Shaw reserves the right to set specific limits for Bandwidth Usage and charge for excessive Bandwidth Usage for residential Services at any time. In addition, users must ensure that their activity does not improperly restrict, disrupt, inhibit, degrade or impede Shaw’s ability to deliver the Services and monitor the Services, backbone, network nodes, and/or other network services.

CUSTOMERS MAY NOT RESELL, SHARE, OR OTHERWISE DISTRIBUTE THE SERVICES OR ANY PORTION THEREOF TO ANY THIRD PARTY WITHOUT THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF SHAW. For example, you cannot provide Internet access to others through a dial up connection, host shell accounts over the Internet, provide email or news service, or send a news feed unless express permission is granted by the customer agreement.

The residential Shaw Services are designed for personal Internet use. You may not use the residential Shaw Services for commercial purposes. You may not run a server in connection with the Shaw Services nor may you provide network services to others via the Shaw Services. Examples of prohibited servers and services include, but are not limited to, mail, http, ftp, irc, dhcp servers, and multi-user interactive forums. Some business services may be exempt from these limitations.

Violation of Acceptable Use Policy

Shaw does not routinely monitor the activity of accounts for violation of this Policy. However, in our efforts to promote good citizenship within the Internet community, we will respond appropriately if we become aware of inappropriate use of the Services. Although Shaw has no obligation to monitor the Services and/or the network, Shaw reserves the right to monitor bandwidth, usage and content from time to time, to identify violations of this Policy; and/or to protect the network and Shaw users.

Shaw prefers to advise customers of inappropriate behavior and any necessary corrective action. However, if the Services are used in a way which Shaw, in its sole discretion, believes violate this Policy, Shaw may take any responsive actions they deem appropriate. Such actions include, but are not limited to, temporary or permanent removal of content, cancellation of newsgroup posts, filtering of Internet transmissions, and the immediate suspension or termination of all or any portion of the Services. Shaw will not have any liability for any such responsive actions. The above described actions are not Shaw’s exclusive remedies and Shaw may take any other legal or technical action it deems appropriate.

Shaw reserves the right to investigate suspected violations of this Policy, including the gathering of information from the user or users involved and the complaining party, if any, and examination of material on Shaw’s servers and network. During an investigation, Shaw may suspend the account or accounts involved and/or remove material which potentially violates this Policy.

You hereby authorize Shaw to cooperate with (i) law enforcement authorities in the investigation of suspected criminal violations, and/or (ii) system administrators at other Internet service providers or other network or computing facilities in order to enforce this Policy. Such cooperation may include Shaw providing the username, IP address, or other identifying information about a subscriber, in accordance with the guidelines set out in Shaw’s Privacy Policy (http://www.shaw.ca/privacypolicy).

Upon termination of an account, Shaw is authorized to delete any files, programs, data and email messages associated with such account.

The failure of Shaw to enforce this Policy, for whatever reason, shall not be construed as a waiver of any right to do so at any time.

You agree that, if any portion of this Policy is held invalid or unenforceable, that portion will be construed consistent with applicable laws as nearly as possible, and the remaining portions will remain in full force and effect.

[KaNaDiAnIcEmAn]

so excessive bandwidth is against rules

[Silent_Death911]

Run away.....really far.

They are out to get ya! Out for those pr0n downloaders......:lmao

[KaNaDiAnIcEmAn]

i never have slowdowns on cable

and friends i know are on dsl and they say its slow, constant problems an dsuch from interferences

i never had a problem with my cable just they dont like 50gb bandwidth a month


the buisness accounts are like $150 with 70gb traffic

ours is like 35 month and it doesnt say what the limitations are

[ch0g0nda]

Originally posted by Whisp[TR]
shaw sucks

just like rogers sucks

they have all these stupid guidlines and stuff

at one point you where not even allowed a network and had to pay extra if they found out you had a router since they could track that unles you masked the first part of the mac address

why i dont like cable too

has security issues and when peek times come in the bandwidth slows down since your sharing groups

why i use dsl and sugest dsl since its a dedicated line

love how the war goes back and fourth too lol

use to be a 1.5 with 30 upload for cable while dsl was 1meg with 20 then dsl switched up to 1.5 with 40 up and cable went up

but now dsl is just going to 3,eg line with 80 up

thankyou bel hahah

cable in my opinion is a waste of money

dsl rules I've run Shaw and Telus broadband side by side. The ADSL topped out at 66KB/s download and 33KB/s upload. The shaw on the otherhand is somewhat restictied by network activity. However it never drops below 300KB/s download and 40KB/s upload. Which is fine for me since Shaw seems to hate it when I upload.

Though after my third bandwidth violation I managed to get my download allowance raised to 15GB/month.

*shrugs*

[wazman]

Originally posted by Whisp[TR]
dsl rules

If you can get it in your area; many can't. I can't. For a lot of people, cable is the only option.

[Maro]

In Aus DSL is capped at 1.5Mb because the Govt (Which still controls the State Telco) maintains it wouldn't be "Fair" for some people to have 6Mb connections if others could only get 256K

Great!

:banghead

[thephenom]

Originally posted by Whisp[TR]
well you must be far away or something to have the speed top off on ya

just my line right now is 40 up for a 1.5 line lol
My line just got upgraded from 1.5Mbps to 3Mbps for free.... but actualy download is only 2.5Mbps Down.

Ya, ch0, that's really low bandwidth ur getting from DSL. with my 1.5Mbps, I get constant 165kb/s down.... perhaps it's the provider. Ever used the bellnexxia network?

[imtim83]

Silent_Death911 could soon be getting a constant 800 KB/sec (KB = Kilo Bytes) to 1 MB/sec (MB = Mega Byte) download speed and 90 KB to 110 KB/sec (KB - Kilo Byte) upload speed for only $45 to $50 a month. I already said what the ISP is so please do not ask me. Search the forums.

Thats a huge improvement over his current 300 to 375 KB/sec download speed and 25 to 32KB/sec upload speed.

[imtim83]

You may be saying why in the heck do you need that much download speed? Most servers can't send to you that fast. Well hes a important keep being able to download two or more things at once at maximum speed! Now that my people is wonderful! Of course would wouldn't need a WD Raptor or SCSI HD to keep up but it would be helpful sense it can make a IDE hard drive maybe crawl to its knees sooner or later.

[egarrard]

Originally posted by KaNaDiAnIcEmAn
im using bit torrent to upload essential mixes, that are free, and are recorded off the radio in britain

as for the service they say it is unlimited internet access. so, why are you calling me?

i looked at their policy and it states this The music is copyrighted. Just because the radio stations paid to broadcast it doesn't mean you can. Didn't you say you dad had lots of money? You and he would be very easy marks for the record label's attorneys.

[LordVagabond]

Heheheh I download about 60 GB a month through Calgary Shaw, but only upload 1-5 GB a month and so far NO CALL O_O :smash

[ansaarkhan400]

If I ever got called, i would get another ISP:D

Although, I like my Bellsouth DSL

[Spec3]

Ah the good old days. Back when I was on Rogers I downloaded/uploaded over 1TB in under a year :D

My friends and I are the reason Rogers has them stinking usage letters now :rofl2

[ch0g0nda]

Originally posted by Whisp[TR]
well you must be far away or something to have the speed top off on ya

just my line right now is 40 up for a 1.5 line lol The house I tested in (4 year old house) was roughly one block away from one of Telus' ADSL hubs. Between me and it there were probably one a dozen houses.

Distance really shouldn't have been an issue.

Then consider that even during weekday afternoons, when all the kiddies get home from school and play online, most using Shaw broadband; my down rate never dropped below 220KB/s. Hell at night I was generally getting 500-600KB/s from good servers.

I miss those days. This house sucks >.<

[wazman]

All day today, I was getting 21k down on the work DSL line... Now we're back up to 621K down...

My cable still kicks this DSL's ass, though... If I got speeds this slow at home, I'd choke myself with my ethernet cables.

[tanman_sg]

awww
i want cable.

my adsl is so slow these days
and we've spent $300 on modems so i dont think dad wants to change

[ch0g0nda]

Originally posted by Whisp[TR]
who was giving you a 4.7 Megabit line? Shaw. Apparantly. I'm just telling you what I get for downloads. But afaik the lines shaw used were 10mbps. So wouldn't it make a little sense that I get a rather fast transfer during peak hours?

After all they do have one line feeding several subscribers.

Anyway here's what I'm getting right now off of what should be a fairly reliable server (cnet). Keep in mind it's 5:30p.m. aka. the slowest time of the day.

[wazman]

Thank God I'm back home and on the cable now... That DSL was really getting me down.

[ch0g0nda]

Originally posted by Whisp[TR]
Thats only a 1.5 Megabit line speed your showing me

and where on shaw does it say they have 10 mb lines and even shared they stil cap ya

unless you hacked that

and you might be saying 10Mb with a capital M hehe Whatever man I don't really care to argue. They could dub my connection slower than a 56K and I wouldn't really care.

Here's my speed going off the same server doing the exact same download during peak hours.

Doesn't look all that capped to me.

[imtim83]

1 to 5 Mbps is very slow in my opinion. OOL, the isp in Calf. that gives 10 Mbps download and upload for $30 to $50 a month, etc is fast. Then the 45 Mbps in other countries as well is fast. Everything else is slow.

You may say well its dum to have that much download speed or upload speed because very few servers can send or receive that fast. Well it doesn't matter. Its good for being able to do more than one download or upload at once. Its good if you have more than one computer using the high speed internet, its good to have a safety net. I rather to much bandwidth rather than to little. Though 1 to 5 Mbps is very slow now. The whole US is behind in speed inless you are lucky enough to live near OOL, the isp in Calf. that provides 10 Mbps download and upload, etc.

[splashtech]

The UK is well behind you guys.

The fastest ADSL connection we can get is 2mbps down, 256kbps up.

Now that is bad.

I'm on 512kbps down, 256kbps up.

[Spec3]

Originally posted by splashtech
The UK is well behind you guys.

The fastest ADSL connection we can get is 2mbps down, 256kbps up.

Now that is bad.

I'm on 512kbps down, 256kbps up.

Same here

Actually Estonia just got a nice speed kick. One company doubled their speeds so the others did as well. My line now is 1024/512 :D

Steve

[splashtech]

Originally posted by Spec3
Same here

Actually Estonia just got a nice speed kick. One company doubled their speeds so the others did as well. My line now is 1024/512 :D

Steve

That is nice. Shame it wouldn't happen here.

Those max speeds I posted are the fastest our phone lines will allow us to go.

:Crying

[Spec3]

Originally posted by splashtech
That is nice. Shame it wouldn't happen here.

Those max speeds I posted are the fastest our phone lines will allow us to go.

:Crying

That sucks. I was about to die with these slow lines.....moving from a place with 3-100Mb/s connections to a place with .5mb/s is harsh.

Do you have cable internet where you are?

[splashtech]

Originally posted by Spec3
That sucks. I was about to die with these slow lines.....moving from a place with 3-100Mb/s connections to a place with .5mb/s is harsh.

Do you have cable internet where you are?

Cable in this country is no better. I think the max is about the same as our DSL.

[KaNaDiAnIcEmAn]

well they phoned when i was at school, phoned them up

yes i know my bandwidth was this and that, yes yes, oh 1/2 that you say hmmm


yes one of the computers had kazaa installed and i made sure that no sharing programs were active *hehehe*


alright thankyou.

[wazman]

Originally posted by KaNaDiAnIcEmAn
well they phoned when i was at school, phoned them up

yes i know my bandwidth was this and that, yes yes, oh 1/2 that you say hmmm


yes one of the computers had kazaa installed and i made sure that no sharing programs were active *hehehe*


alright thankyou.

Now hit 'em with a 2x4.

[KaNaDiAnIcEmAn]

once march rolls by