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bejohnson
02-26-2004, 05:14 PM
Teen pleads guilty to trying to kill jogger (http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20040226/localnews/467498.html)
Robbins' plea could mean life in prison
February 26, 2004
By KATHLEEN A. SCHULTZ
Great Falls Tribune Staff Writer


On Wednesday, Daniel Robbins' stuck by his decision to take responsibility for nearly killing jogger Patty Emanuel and pleaded guilty to attempted deliberate homicide to avoid the pain of a trial.

With his parents and little sister looking sadly on -- and his victim sitting quietly in the row behind the prosecution -- the tall, husky 17-year-old with a deep, quiet voice took the stand and acknowledged not only his desire, but also his competency, to make that decision.

"It's my choice," Robbins said in response to questioning from his attorney, Steve Hudspeth.

That choice could mean the teen spends the rest of his life in prison.

Because he was prosecuted as an adult, Robbins faces a mandatory minimum of 10 years, up to life, plus two more years for using a weapon -- his Ram Charger SUV -- to mow Emanuel down from behind at 30 mph.

District Judge Kenneth Neill accepted his plea, ordered a presentencing report on Robbins' mental state and other background information, and set sentencing for April 13.

There is no plea agreement; the length of time the boy serves, and how he serves it, will be up to Neill.

Nine months ago nearly to the day, on May 27, Robbins slammed his SUV into Emanuel, a stranger to him, as she was jogging on a sidewalk near C.M. Russell High School.

It was a crime of opportunity, a random attempt to kill her so he could have sex with her corpse, he told police.

Missoula psychiatrist William Stratford evaluated Robbins, and has testified in the past that although the teen knew what he was doing and was competent to stand trial, his ability to appreciate what he'd done "was severely impacted due to a deteriorating psychotic mental condition."

At sentencing, Hudspeth will argue that the boy's mental condition warrants a departure from the mandatory sentencing minimums.

He is hoping to find a way to get Robbins some sort of treatment, rather that straight punishment, although that would have been considerably easier had the case remained in Youth Court. There are few such programs outside the prison system available to adults in Montana.

Emanuel, a petite, pretty woman with a shock of wavy blonde hair, spoke briefly with Cascade County Attorney Brant Light after the hearing and left with her son and a few other supporters without commenting.

She was hospitalized for 24 days with six fractured vertebrae; four fractures in her pelvis; a deep puncture wound in her chest; a collapsed lung; three broken ribs; a broken nose; sinus fractures in her face; one broken and three chipped teeth, and numerous scrapes and bruises.

On Tuesday her attorney, Randy Tarum, called her recovery nothing short of remarkable. He passed on her gratitude for the donations, prayers and kind words sent her way.

"She wants to thank the community for its outpouring of support," Tarum said. "It really helped her when she needed it."

Emanuel, who married Mark Harant in November, is "back to work now. She's feeling well," Tarum said.

"It's been pretty difficult for her, and it continues to be difficult at times, but she's getting along well under the circumstances."

Robbins will remain in the Cascade County juvenile detention center until sentencing.

Schultz can be reached at kschultzgreatfal.gannett.com, or at (406) 791-1474 or (800) 438-6600.
Sick just sick.

Sidebinder
02-26-2004, 05:21 PM
The man obviously is either completely insane or had a sucide wish. He probably thought he would get the chair or lethal injection. Life in the pen is worse imo, pending the situation of the prison.

But, common, this guy should be locked up for good. The poor woman is just trying to jog and them comes along this bafoon. Lock him up and throw away the key. :smash

It is extremely devistating that there is stupid ****s like this in the world we live in. :Crying

Orangepeel
02-26-2004, 05:32 PM
Makes you wonder how many other times he contemplated doing such a thing before actually going ahead with it.

Sex with a corpse? Ew...serious issues in the membrane, that guy has :eek:! Most people want to get as far away from anything dead as soon as possible.

splashtech
02-26-2004, 05:40 PM
That is gross.

can't ay I'm surprised though. Gruesome **** like that is not as rare as it should be. :(

Tazmanian Devil
02-26-2004, 05:43 PM
I really don't get it:What the - Why are there so many f***ed up people in this world?:Sigh

LordKappa
02-26-2004, 05:49 PM
There is every kind of sick weirdo out there you could ever imagine... and many more you couldn't. :Sigh

Anyone who has ever been on the "Gaia" forums would agree with me... largest gathering of perverse people on the entire internet that I know of (There may be worse... but I don't go deliberately looking :rolleyes: )

Sidebinder
02-26-2004, 05:51 PM
I think it is how you are raised taz. If you are raised in a stable enviroment than you should grow up right. If you are raised in a druggy house and see your mother get beat by your father 24/7 then you are probably going to be retarted enough to think and do something like this. Then again, there will always be the kid that comes from a rich back ground, makes straight A's in school, and has all the popularity in the world that ends up commiting suicide or killing someone. People in this world are just stupid as **** especially when we got the cops and their technology that they have today. Hell, they can trace you to a whole crime scene with a piece of bologna you had last week for breakfast. People are stupid if they think they get away with anything now adays and live to tell about it. Then they do tell about it and go to jail anyway. This world doesn't make complete sense, sorry.

Tazmanian Devil
02-26-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Sidebinder
I think it is how you are raised taz. If you are raised in a stable enviroment than you should grow up right. If you are raised in a druggy house and see your mother get beat by your father 24/7 then you are probably going to be retarted enough to think and do something like this. Then again, there will always be the kid that comes from a rich back ground, makes straight A's in school, and has all the popularity in the world that ends up commiting suicide or killing someone. People in this world are just stupid as **** especially when we got the cops and their technology that they have today. Hell, they can trace you to a whole crime scene with a piece of bologna you had last week for breakfast. People are stupid if they think they get away with anything now adays and live to tell about it. Then they do tell about it and go to jail anyway. This world doesn't make complete sense, sorry.

See that's the thing - it's not entirely about one's upbringing. What really drives these people to do ****ed up things is beyond me:What the :What the :What the

XxFaeryOnFirexX
02-26-2004, 06:05 PM
oooooooh kay. that is some messed up crap.

Tazmanian Devil
02-26-2004, 06:11 PM
On a similar note, was the Armin Meiwes case/trial ever discussed here? That was shocking:jawsdown

bejohnson
02-26-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Tazmanian Devil
On a similar note, was the Armin Meiwes case/trial ever discussed here? That was shocking:jawsdown

Follow this link for the latest on that case.

http://www.4law.co.il/cann1c.htm

Tazmanian Devil
02-26-2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by bejohnson
Follow this link for the latest on that case.

http://www.4law.co.il/cann1c.htm

Thanks.
Not right now - having very early breakfast. *Goes to General Hardware*

wazman
02-26-2004, 07:19 PM
As the song goes...

"Two kinds of people in this world... Winners... Losers..."

Tivon
02-26-2004, 07:26 PM
I guess she gave him the cold shoulder?

wazman
02-26-2004, 07:43 PM
"Two kinds of trouble in this world... Living... Dying..."

ChKFlores
02-27-2004, 05:10 PM
Hmmm...this case is an irony. Defendant admits to guilt, yet offers no apology and has no remorse whatsoever.

Yet I wonder, did he have the condition before the incident took place? I would think his parents would've had a CAT scan or even the evalution performed. However, they didn't see this coming anyway.

So many unanswered questions. A near-tragic and pitiful mess...

wazman
02-27-2004, 05:16 PM
My God...

My posts in this thread don't make a lick of sense. What in the world was I drinking last night, and where can I get more?

Anyway, to answer the topic. I believe if he knows what he did and admits intent, he should be sentenced like anyone else. Mental condition or not, if he wanted to do it and intended to do it, then he's just as guilty as anyone else.

This really doesn't make sense to me. If the guy himself says "Yeah, I wanted to do it", then what opposition to that could there be?

egarrard
02-27-2004, 05:38 PM
Think of the mortician he would have made... :devil :rofl2

coldstatic
02-27-2004, 06:46 PM
I have an opnion on this think of it what u will. When we grow up we have tons of horomones running through us. Now think that the average height a few years ago was not quite as high as it is now. does that mean that our horomones r going up too. If u also notice more and more weird and sick things r happening to ppl now a days. maybe this kid has a serious horomone imbalence. (Not defending what he did or anyone else who does weird/sick things.) I mean how many of u r taller than your parents. Just a thought about what is happening to soceity in general. but as far as this kid goes he needs some serous help maybe some day he can re-enter soceity and be conductive.

SOMEONE GIVE THIS KID A ******* COMPUTER. Take his mind of weird things

wazman
02-27-2004, 06:52 PM
Huh?