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pattyporkloin
03-16-2004, 07:05 PM
The company I work for has instituted a new policy. Any delivery people accepting gratuities from customers will be fired- no excuses. Now, we hardly used to be offered tips. But, suddenly, it seems everyone is trying to grease our palms. We're losing our sanity over this.:banghead Ever heard of such a demented policy?
Nice
What is it you deliver?
That is nuts. For a person to give you gratuities or a tip, it is usually for a job well done and that you have done a good job. If customers give tips, then it is because they are happy. Your company should not discourage it.
WazLady73
03-16-2004, 09:07 PM
That is different..but some places are going to that policy.
Where I get my hair done my beautian is not allowed to accept tips. At first I was floored, but it has been a long standing policy with them. Which in a way I enjoy. After paying $55.00 for a frost job, the $22.00 for a hair cut I usually didn't have enough $$$ to tip her....
Tazmanian Devil
03-16-2004, 09:10 PM
Hmmm....maybe the tip is included in the price you pay just like some vendors claiming free delivery when in fact the delivery cost is hidden in the product cost.....hmmm
Originally posted by WazLady73
That is different..but some places are going to that policy.
Where I get my hair done my beautian is not allowed to accept tips. At first I was floored, but it has been a long standing policy with them. Which in a way I enjoy. After paying $55.00 for a frost job, the $22.00 for a hair cut I usually didn't have enough $$$ to tip her....
What is a Frost job?
WazLady73
03-16-2004, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Maro
What is a Frost job?
:lmao
Sorry..had to think for a moment what you asked..
A "Frost Job" as I call it (Must be a US term) is a Highlight. Or Streaking...where sections of hair are colored. Or "Foil Wrap" is another term for it.
Does that help:)
Originally posted by WazLady73
:lmao
Sorry..had to think for a moment what you asked..
A "Frost Job" as I call it (Must be a US term) is a Highlight. Or Streaking...where sections of hair are colored. Or "Foil Wrap" is another term for it.
Does that help:)
I see!
Sorry for the Double entendre!
JCYC5
03-17-2004, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by WazLady73
:lmao
Sorry..had to think for a moment what you asked..
A "Frost Job" as I call it (Must be a US term) is a Highlight. Or Streaking...where sections of hair are colored. Or "Foil Wrap" is another term for it.
Does that help:)
/me has red frost jobs :Blah
Maniacmous
03-17-2004, 08:03 AM
See...personally, I'm somewhat torn on the idea of tipping. On the one hand, I think it should be included in the price of the product or whatever, just for convenience's sake if anything. The problem arises, however, when the service is obscenely poor, or for that matter, great, the tip should reflect that. I think there should perhaps be a baseline, where it is included in the product price, but not to necessarily discourage tips either above and beyond, because I can remember many a waitress where I've tipped well over 15% for someone going out of their way (no...that doesnt mean I'm hitting on the waitress...lol).
Originally posted by Maniacmous
See...personally, I'm somewhat torn on the idea of tipping. On the one hand, I think it should be included in the price of the product or whatever, just for convenience's sake if anything. The problem arises, however, when the service is obscenely poor, or for that matter, great, the tip should reflect that. I think there should perhaps be a baseline, where it is included in the product price, but not to necessarily discourage tips either above and beyond, because I can remember many a waitress where I've tipped well over 15% for someone going out of their way (no...that doesnt mean I'm hitting on the waitress...lol). Nah, I've got no problem with they way it is now. If the service is good- I tip well, if the service is horrible (which seldomly happens)- I don't tip. If the service is mediocre, then I tip mediocre. In my case, the service to wherever I go is usually good to excellent, so I have no problem leaving a good tip. If the tip is included in the price, then that does not give the incentive to give you excellent service.
bejohnson
03-17-2004, 10:29 AM
I imagine the "No Tipping" policy was instituted as a result of a taxing authority ruling. In the U.S. people are required to report their tips as income. Since human nature would be to under report the tips the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) in the U.S. has a rule that in jobs where tips are prevalent the employer must assume a certain percentage of the base income as the amount of the tips received and withhold tax on that amount. The whole system is cumbersome and requires a good bit of expense on the part of the employer to maintain. The strict no tip policy allows the employer to show the IRS and/or the local and state taxing authorities that tipping is not allowed so they are not required to withhold extra from the employees pay.
Some employers such as restaurants require the employees to give the tip amount to the manager and he counts it and records the amount for IRS reporting. Other restaurants pool the tip money and divide the tips by the employee's percentage of the total billed amount at the end of the shift.
I personally consider tips (TIPS = To Insure Proper Service) to be a matter between the employee and the customer. I even deduct any tip added to a check from the bill and tell the manager that I pay the resturant only for the food, the tip is between the employee and myself and the reporting of that tip is up to the employee.
If I get average service I tip 15%, if I get good service I will tip 20%, for exemplary service I will tip 25% and I have been known to tip as much as 50% if the service was way beyond great. Conversely if the service is bad I also tip in kind. If the server just takes an order and brings the food and never asks if I need anything or refills my beverage, in other words just totally ignores me, then I will not tip.
wazman
03-17-2004, 10:33 AM
I know I posted in this thread this morning. I swear I did. Where's my post?
Or maybe this is the first sign of senility... But I swear I posted in this thread.
bejohnson
03-17-2004, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by wazman
I know I posted in this thread this morning. I swear I did. Where's my post?
Or maybe this is the first sign of senility... But I swear I posted in this thread.
Forgeting to hit the SUBMIT button again Waz?:D
Don't laugh but I was going to post a message this AM and I forgot to submit it before I had to go to work. It was still on the screen when I got back.:smash
eire1274
03-17-2004, 12:31 PM
:)
wazman
03-17-2004, 12:35 PM
I'm not mental... I'm just old.
pattyporkloin
03-20-2004, 04:40 PM
I deliver furniture for a major department store. Their prices are competitive and the product is high quality. We are paid an hourly wage. A fair wage. And when I refuse a tip, most of the time the customer is shocked and refuses to believe me. I've even had a few who were insulted. And, of course, I've had some who were delighted. But, then, I've had some who stick the money in my pocket and refuse to take no for an answer-even though it could cost me my job. And I've made them aware of that. I'm too old to start over with a new company. Sorry, sounds like I'm playing on ya'lls sympathy. But this is causing me to drink.:Beer
Septimus
03-20-2004, 07:48 PM
if they trya nd fire u for that, heres what id do:
"knock knock"
"whos there"
give them the finger and leave
pattyporkloin
03-20-2004, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Septimus
if they trya nd fire u for that, heres what id do:
"knock knock"
"whos there"
give them the finger and leave Not so easy. I'm 56 and been with the company 24 years. Sometimes I feel like taking the tips and taking my chances, but I also hate the thot of giving up ewverything I've worked for all these years.
Teddray
03-20-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Septimus
if they trya nd fire u for that, heres what id do:
"knock knock"
"whos there"
give them the finger and leave
not so easy when you can't afford to lose your job. As much as I despise my job, it is what makes coming here to chat possible -_-
Originally posted by pattyporkloin
Not so easy. I'm 56 and been with the company 24 years. Sometimes I feel like taking the tips and taking my chances, but I also hate the thot of giving up ewverything I've worked for all these years. If they fire you after being with a company for 24 years just for accepting a tip for services rendered, then this company has serious issues and not worth the time of day. I am sure that there are other companys that would love to have someone with your experience.
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