"Boy grabs knife after dad unplugs video game"

[KaNaDiAnIcEmAn]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/fun.games/03/16/boy.videogame.reut/index.html

oh dear

[JCYC5]

This did not appear in the newspapers...

[eire1274]

You know... somebody is going to put a spin on this saying it's due to "playing violent video games."

BS.

It's due to having no respect for the parent(s).

I never would have tried something like that. At age 13, I was quite aware of what my father was capable of physically (he was, after all, my judo instructor!) and even if the thought entered my mind it would have been rejected out of the need for self-preservation.

I was not afraid of my father. I was afraid of upsetting him. Remains true to this day (he's in his 50's and joined up to study taijutsu with me last year... and impressed some people).

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Originally posted by eire1274
You know... somebody is going to put a spin on this saying it's due to "playing violent video games."

BS.

It's due to having no respect for the parent(s).

I never would have tried something like that. At age 13, I was quite aware of what my father was capable of physically (he was, after all, my judo instructor!) and even if the thought entered my mind it would have been rejected out of the need for self-preservation.

I was not afraid of my father. I was afraid of upsetting him. Remains true to this day (he's in his 50's and joined up to study taijutsu with me last year... and impressed some people).

This is exactly the point i was about to make, it isnt the games that do this, its the parents not raising there kids right. If my mother came and unpluged my pc (she unpluged my modem a few times) i wwould know better than to raise a fist/knife/anything to her, i would just plug it back in after she left :D

[JCYC5]

Originally posted by eire1274
You know... somebody is going to put a spin on this saying it's due to "playing violent video games."

BS.

It's due to having no respect for the parent(s).

I never would have tried something like that. At age 13, I was quite aware of what my father was capable of physically (he was, after all, my judo instructor!) and even if the thought entered my mind it would have been rejected out of the need for self-preservation.

I was not afraid of my father. I was afraid of upsetting him. Remains true to this day (he's in his 50's and joined up to study taijutsu with me last year... and impressed some people).

One thing you may not understand is the respect Chinese people have for parents... it can't be that...

[KorruptioN]

Originally posted by JCYC5
One thing you may not understand is the respect Chinese people have for parents... it can't be that...
Ditto... I'm Vietnamese, but it still applies.

[KaNaDiAnIcEmAn]

well it does have to do with their culture,

i believe that most of all the chinese have familys where the parents are always at a full time job, children are sent off to school, then come home either to no one or a nanny

most of them probly dont even see their parents very often as they are working full time.

hopefuly this is isolated

[egarrard]

Times, they are a-changin"...

[eire1274]

Originally posted by JCYC5
One thing you may not understand is the respect Chinese people have for parents... it can't be that...
I have a very Japanese values set, thanks to years of martial arts.

I have also seen many times when a parent tried to instill these values of respect into their children but failed to provide the characteristics in themselves which make such ideals sink into their kids. This tends to produce the worst of the worst, children and young adults who "rebel" because in their world there is no role-model worth actually respecting, therefore nothing is respected.

[EXer]

Originally posted by JCYC5
One thing you may not understand is the respect Chinese people have for parents... it can't be that... I would have to say he had not respect if he did that or a serious problem in his head.
I know quite a few Chinese folk that live in MS, and I know what you mean about how the Chinese respect their parent. :)

[Tivon]

How do we know the father was not abusing the child to provoke this attack? Not to say that some people don’t explode in an uncontrollable rage without reason. And I would not go so far as to say a videogame would embrace such actions. There is nothing new here that should shock people as to say, “Wow that kids need to be locked up!” Then next thing you know these dysfunctional parents are talking about possible counseling, therapy and camps. It’s almost as if this problem is something they can’t fix? You know a little communication goes a very long way if you have an actual relationship with your family. If you always talk down to your children as these “Little Problems” that you want to just go away and shut up, then this stuff happens. I know some parents that treat their kids as if nothing they ever do is right. They do nothing but yell and put them down at everything they don’t agree with. Some of this thinking is learned from their own parents or lack of. But there is nothing stopping you from just loving your kids and creating a mutual relationship with them. Kids are not your “Little Problems” they are “Little People.” A nice quote from Spiderman, “With great power comes great responsibility” and as a parent it’s in your hands to show your kids healthy living. If all you do is work all day to make money and spend 0% hours with your children, then what sort of people do you expect them to become on their own? These kids will not just magically find their way throughout life. And if you expect a child to chat with a consular (Another Adult) and share their deep-dark problems with them, again you are sadly mistaken. Would you trust your problems with someone that your parents are paying for? Everyone here is a child at some point in his or her life and you must know what it was like to do bad things in your exploration of the worlds boundaries. What finally stopped you as a parent from doing those bad things? What really stopped you from trying things that are looked down upon others as dark and sinful? I recall once stealing some rare silver coins from my father and spending them at the store for a soda. This one time my dad didn’t punish me. He just ran off to the store and got his coins back and that was it. He actually talked with me and not at me. Basically he was just sad and tired of fighting with me. Then told me his story of when his uncle gave him those old coins. This had more of an impact on me because when someone is yelling “at you”, don’t you tend to shy away and block him or her out? It’s a strange feeling to know you have dishonored those in your family. Anyway, odds are if your kids hate you enough to stab you with a knife then the failure of your kids actions are also yours as a parent.

[Silent_Death911]

Nitwit. I get mad at my mom to an extent if she is annoying me while I'm playing a game. Well, not annoying me as much as mocking my trance-like state. :Blah

I have respect for my parents. I'm not afraid of them. I'm taller then both of them, so I could care less. Depending on my mood on that day, I'll either listen when they tell me to do something....or wait until they tell me the 2nd or 3rd time, then do it. :Wink :Blah

[ChKFlores]

Hmmm...I would agree with Tivon on this one. Parents then usually felt that getting mad at their children meant getting respect from them. That is not the case today. I grew with parents who were "old-fashioned" and did not know how to be parents. This is nothing against them, but they did make mistakes. Unfortunately, parents are more concerned about physical needs, not emotional ones. I'm not saying to spoil them, but the children are an important responsilbilty. Yes, a hug and three words is more important than trying to giving them everything in this world.

[thephenom]

Originally posted by JCYC5
One thing you may not understand is the respect Chinese people have for parents... it can't be that...
I don't know.....the younger chinese kids I see now a days always dominating their parents, largely due to being lone child of the family, etc. Even in public, they show very little respect for their parents.

I would agree that in the past, that we all were taught to respect our parents as well as elders, but now that doesn't seem to be the case.

[ChKFlores]

Originally posted by thephenom
I don't know.....the younger chinese kids I see now a days always dominating their parents, largely due to being lone child of the family, etc. Even in public, they show very little respect for their parents.

I would agree that in the past, that we all were taught to respect our parents as well as elders, but now that doesn't seem to be the case.

Those kids have been spoiled rotten. :Nope

[Sidebinder]

The father managed to overpower the boy and no one was injured in the fracas early on Sunday morning, a local newspaper reported

Theres a parent! :devil That's how you raise your kids. hehe :rofl2

[Teddray]

the problem is parents don't beat their kids anymore. I can remember getting spanked when I was bad. I see the neighbor's kids and various cousins and all sorts of other little kids acting like little stinkers and getting away with it. it goes downhill from there.

I feel the need to link to maddox :) Don't click if you are easily offended. http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html

[Baker_God]

hehe, he's the first thing I thought of when reading that. I love that site.

[Sidebinder]

I like that site Teddray. I was never beaten, the only time I was is when I took my dad's bottle of Bud, mostly due to my parents are a bit of alchoholix, but I still turned out pretty well :D

I will most likely beat my kids cause I wasn't, cause I don't know how to raise them any other way. :thumb

[XxFaeryOnFirexX]

Originally posted by Teddray
the problem is parents don't beat their kids anymore. I can remember getting spanked when I was bad. I see the neighbor's kids and various cousins and all sorts of other little kids acting like little stinkers and getting away with it. it goes downhill from there.

I feel the need to link to maddox :) Don't click if you are easily offended. http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html

technically... not all parents know when to do that. Personally I will not do that.

My parents did it if I got bad grades. That definitely didn't make me do better.

[whatumacalit]

Beat me up scotteyyyyyyyy. <-- callin your father/mother scotty may make things worst, hehe, no offend scottman.

isolated case, nothing to do with being chinese or something like that, none of us was there when it happens so we dont actually know for sure the element(s) that accumulated and constributed to this. It's like a case of highway madness where someone will run another car down for cutting lane in front of him. :bomb

some info: chinese respect their parents out of tradition, but modern chinese are the same as any other races, the amount of respect is the same as any other.

[Teddray]

Originally posted by XxFaeryOnFirexX
technically... not all parents know when to do that. Personally I will not do that.

My parents did it if I got bad grades. That definitely didn't make me do better.

getting bad grades really isnt the time to beat your kid. I see lots of little kids every day come in shopping with their parents, and man... some of them behave so badly I'd beat them myself if I could without being arrested. It is amazing how so many parents are complete wusses when it comes to cracking down on bad behavior and doing SOMETHING to discipine their damn kids. Don't really need to whack em one if you don't want to, but anything is better than the nothing I constantly see.

[Runningzi]

LoL, what is the world coming to, first kids get violent because they play violent games, now they get even more violent cause they cant play them, its a lose-lose situation :Yea right