Some pictures from the Star Spangled Salute yesturday

[MaStA]

These pictures were takin at the Star Spangled Salute here on Tinker AFB, OK Just a few pictures of planes you could find on the internet but figured I would post anyways. Hope you enjoy! :thumb

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes001.jpg 'Spooky' AC-47 Gunship

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes002.jpgAWACS

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes003.jpg F-16

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes004.jpg F-16 close in front

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes005.jpg "The Nest" as we call it here

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes006.jpg I think they called this "The Flight of History" or something like that, it is a F-15 and P-51

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes007.jpg B-52, which is the LARGEST bomber in the world :KICK ASS Has 4 engines on each wing, you cannot see the other two in this picture though.

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes008.jpg B-1B

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes009.jpg B-1B close up

http://members.cox.net/masta819/sss/planes010.jpg F-15

Once I get a digital camera I can get some cool pictures but these were takin by my friend and he didn't use it much so that is why there is so few pictures. There were many other planes here including a russian MiG-17F, Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress, Twin Beech 18, Learjet 23, AT-6, KC-135R Stratotanker, E-6 TACAMO which is a Navy plane, and more I am sure.

Jared

[Airmack]

that p-51.. thats a mustang right?

[MaStA]

that p-51.. thats a mustang right?

That is correct

[bejohnson]

Here's a P-51 up close and personal. This was taken at the Wings over Dixie 2000 Air Show at Peachtree City, Georgia. The aircraft belongs to a Delta pilot.

[bejohnson]

Here's another shot of the P-51 taxiing out to perform. Note the Canadian Snowbirds in the foreground getting ready for their flight. The P-51 sounded awesome as it was performing. This aircraft had the high-output Packard-Merlin engine and it was amazing. The Delta pilot that owns this aircraft also is in the Naval Reserve and was an F-14 pilot. He is now in F/A-18s.

[Airmack]

my dads dad was a mustang pilot.. I never meet him as he died of cancer when my dad was 19 but its still cool to see things like that.

My moms dad was a tail gunner in a b-17. got a pic of one of them?

[JCYC5]

Beautiful photos! :thumb

Got any of a F14? I love it...

[egarrard]

my dads dad was a mustang pilot.. I never meet him as he died of cancer when my dad was 19 but its still cool to see things like that.

My moms dad was a tail gunner in a b-17. got a pic of one of them?http://proft.50megs.com/b-17-kh.jpg

[bejohnson]

Beautiful photos! :thumb

Got any of a F14? I love it...

Here's a few. Click on the picture for the full size version.

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[Maro]

For a plane that is fairly old you just can't beat the Tomcat - it looks like a Fighter should - MEAN!

[JCYC5]

If I can become an American citizen and get them to promise me I can fly a F-14, I'd join the Navy :Wink

Gawd, I love that fighter....... :hail :hail :hail

[Airmack]

im not really sure but is the f-16 a better plane then the f-14?

if not then forgive me but I know for sure a meg 29 is better then a f-16.

[Maro]

If I can become an American citizen and get them to promise me I can fly a F-14, I'd join the Navy :Wink

Gawd, I love that fighter....... :hail :hail :hail


Whilst a waiting for your flight in a chipmunk as an Air Cadet, it was obligatory to watch Top Gun 10 times with the sound down and everybody doing the dialogue!

:hail :hail :lmao :lmao

[MaStA]

im not really sure but is the f-16 a better plane then the f-14?

if not then forgive me but I know for sure a meg 29 is better then a f-16.

Hmm not too sure about that...
At about 40 miles apart, the American planes have the advantage because of avionics. At 10 miles the advantage is turning to the MiG. At five miles out, because of the MiG weapons sight and better maneuverability, the advantage is to the MiG. This was off fas.org

If an F-16 takes out that plane before it gets to him then I would rather the F-16. F-15's air to air capabilities are phenominal. When the F-22 comes out there won't be a thing to touch that...BTW those countries barely can afford to produce the planes...yet maintain them. To the public knowledge the USA almost has 1,000 F-16's mission capable...I would like to see anything that will touch that.

Jared

[bejohnson]

Each type of aircraft has a different role in battle. The F-14/F-15 was the long-range heavy load fighter that could double as an attack aircraft. The F-16 was an air superiority fighter that was smaller and quicker in the maneuvers. All three are getting old as far as weapons systems go.

The F/A-18 is replacing the F-14/F1-15 type of aircraft in the Navy and the Air Force. The F-16 replacement is supposed to be the F-22 Raptor but with budget constraints the F-16 will be around for a long time. The F-14/F-15 fighters will be gradually replaced as they wear out and the airframes become no longer serviceable or air worthy.

[MaStA]

Each type of aircraft has a different role in battle. The F-14/F-15 was the long-range heavy load fighter that could double as an attack aircraft. The F-16 was an air superiority fighter that was smaller and quicker in the maneuvers. All three are getting old as far as weapons systems go.

The F/A-18 is replacing the F-14/F1-15 type of aircraft in the Navy and the Air Force. The F-16 replacement is supposed to be the F-22 Raptor but with budget constraints the F-16 will be around for a long time. The F-14/F-15 fighters will be gradually replaced as they wear out and the airframes become no longer serviceable or air worthy.

Supposedly nothing can out maneuver the F-16...but until I fly one I won't know hahaha :hail

[Maro]

Each type of aircraft has a different role in battle. The F-14/F-15 was the long-range heavy load fighter that could double as an attack aircraft. The F-16 was an air superiority fighter that was smaller and quicker in the maneuvers. All three are getting old as far as weapons systems go.

The F/A-18 is replacing the F-14/F1-15 type of aircraft in the Navy and the Air Force. The F-16 replacement is supposed to be the F-22 Raptor but with budget constraints the F-16 will be around for a long time. The F-14/F-15 fighters will be gradually replaced as they wear out and the airframes become no longer serviceable or air worthy.

Wasn't the F-14 a pure Interceptor until they realised it could do attack?

[JCYC5]

I don't care for the fact that the F-14 isn't the best fighter...

It's looks cannot be beat.

Ed, how can I contact the Navy to purchase a worn out and replaced F-14 from them? :Wink

[bejohnson]

I don't care for the fact that the F-14 isn't the best fighter...

It's looks cannot be beat.

Ed, how can I contact the Navy to purchase a worn out and replaced F-14 from them? :Wink

Start with the office of Public Affairs. I kinda doubt they would send one to HK though. :Wink

[bejohnson]

Wasn't the F-14 a pure Interceptor until they realised it could do attack?

Originally yes but it is such a large aircraft it quickly became a dual role aircraft. With the addition of the F/A-18 Hornet and the Super Hornet to the fleet the Tomcat has really become the Navy's bombing and ground support aircraft.

It's still a fantastic aircraft. It's a helluva ride also. :thumb :hail :thumb :hail :thumb
One should see me wedge my fat posterior into the rear seat. :jawsdown :rofl2

[Maro]

Originally yes but it is such a large aircraft it quickly became a dual role aircraft. With the addition of the F/A-18 Hornet and the Super Hornet to the fleet the Tomcat has really become the Navy's bombing and ground support aircraft.

It's still a fantastic aircraft. It's a helluva ride also. :thumb :hail :thumb :hail :thumb
One should see me wedge my fat posterior into the rear seat. :jawsdown :rofl2


All I can say is "Git" :p

The scariest thing I flew in was a Chipmunk flown by a desk-bound Tornado pilot :shocking :shocking


Very fun

[JCYC5]

Start with the office of Public Affairs. I kinda doubt they would send one to HK though. :Wink

With your help they might... :luxhello

[Silent_Death911]

Mmmmmmm......planes. I like helicopters better though. Love the special operations squads. Especially the AH-64 and the UH-60. :) I'm kinda upset that the military stopped the research for the RAH-66. That was one sweet and sleek looking chopper.

[Airmack]

off question but is the british navy use tornados? or do we have em too?

I remember talking to a pilot about a tornado and he said best defence with a mig29 is fly as fast and as low as possible.

but thats just for tornado against mig 29

[Maro]

off question but is the british navy use tornados? or do we have em too?

I remember talking to a pilot about a tornado and he said best defence with a mig29 is fly as fast and as low as possible.

but thats just for tornado against mig 29

No just the Airforce. It is a Tri-party constructed by the UK, Germany and Italy. There are two Variants, GR1 which is a Strike Fighter (like the F-15E) and the F3 which is a straight out Interceptor (designed to shoot down Bears etc over the North Sea).

The F3 has a much longer nose and is usually light Gray in colour - I believe that only the RAF uses this variant. THe GR1 is generally Camoflage


:thumb

[egarrard]

Mmmmmmm......planes. I like helicopters better though. Love the special operations squads. Especially the AH-64 and the UH-60. :) I'm kinda upset that the military stopped the research for the RAH-66. That was one sweet and sleek looking chopper.That it was! http://www.cafes.net/egarrard/Smilies/SmilieCopter.gif

[blpeterson]

Mmmmmmm......planes. I like helicopters better though. Love the special operations squads. Especially the AH-64 and the UH-60. :) I'm kinda upset that the military stopped the research for the RAH-66. That was one sweet and sleek looking chopper.

This is just for you SD. Enjoy sweetie. Click on the picture for the full size version.

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[Maro]

This is just for you SD. Enjoy sweetie. Click on the picture for the full size version.

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I didn't know the Navy used the Penguin?

[bejohnson]

I didn't know the Navy used the Penguin?

She's already logged off but Yep, we call it the AGM-119 “Penguin” anti-ship missile.

Here's the caption for that picture.

Helicopter Antisubmarine Light Five One (HSL-51) fires an AGM-119 “Penguin” anti-ship missile from an SH-60B “Sea Hawk” helicopter, during aircrew weapon certifications. HSL-51 is home based at the forward deployed naval facility in Atsugi, Japan, with detachments operating out of Kadena Air Force Base in Okinawa. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 2nd Class Lisa Aman. (RELEASED)

[Maro]

She's already logged off but Yep, we call it the AGM-119 “Penguin” anti-ship missile.

Here's the caption for that picture.

Norwegian if I remember correctly

Curiously all of the European anti-ship missiles are named after Seabirds.

Norway - Penguin

Germany - Kormoran (Cormorant)

UK - Sea Eagle

:thumb

[Airmack]

This is just for you SD. Enjoy sweetie. Click on the picture for the full size version.

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thats a great looking machine i must say.

[JCYC5]

thats a great looking machine i must say.

Not quite as sexy as the F-14 :Wink

[Airmack]

Not quite as sexy as the F-14 :Wink

put the missle on a f-14 and you have a even sexier f-14

[Raedwulf]

off question but is the british navy use tornados? or do we have em too?

I remember talking to a pilot about a tornado and he said best defence with a mig29 is fly as fast and as low as possible.

but thats just for tornado against mig 29

The British Navy uses the Sea Harrier (VTOL Aircraft), The British have signed a deal to procure the Joint Strike Fighter to replace the aging Harriers

As for RAF aircraft; Tornado GR4, Harrier, Jaguar.
The Typhoon (Eurofighter) will replace the older Tornado F3

[Maro]

The Sea Harriers are being retired and there is a gap between then and the new JSF - problems with the design are also affecting out new Carriers - Dimensions etc.

They never learn! :Nope

I had an annual camp once at RAF Coningsby - you Canadians have a link there, one of the Squadrans is an old Canadian RAF one and the F3's have a maple leaf insignia.

The Pilots were great fun and treated us to loads of displays- including a mach 1 pass down the runway at 50ft :shocking :shocking

Coningsby is a great base - it was the home base of the Dambusters (617 Squadron)

http://www.dambusters.org.uk/

They have loads of old Tallboy and Grand Slam Bombs on display.

Also it is home of the Battle of Britain Mrmorial Flight. When I was there they had just restored a M-109F which was very rare - they treated us to a mock dogfight between it and a Spitfire MK IV - awesome sight.

All in all a great week.

See here for more detail - you'll see the De Haviland Chipmunks we used to fly:

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/spotting/coningsby.html

[Airmack]

wile we are on story telling time, I have a good one for you.

I was with my friend out west in his turbo prop (little two seater plane with a motor behind u)

This was way before 911 and we happend to get a little to close to an air base.

Well I dont know if they sent a fighter to us or one was out all ready but this trainer jet (being that it had no arms on it) flew right under us. Really fast compared to us and REAL loud.

we then flew back and away from the base. :surrender

[MaStA]

wile we are on story telling time, I have a good one for you.

I was with my friend out west in his turbo prop (little two seater plane with a motor behind u)

This was way before 911 and we happend to get a little to close to an air base.

Well I dont know if they sent a fighter to us or one was out all ready but this trainer jet (being that it had no arms on it) flew right under us. Really fast compared to us and REAL loud.

we then flew back and away from the base. :surrender

LoL! Where were you flying and do you know what base it was your were flying over? hahahahaha. :rofl2

Jared

[Airmack]

it was in tucson, cant think of an airbase off hand but davis monthan sounds like that was it. or was it luke.. of crap i dont remember.

[MaStA]

it was in tucson, cant think of an airbase off hand but davis monthan sounds like that was it. or was it luke.. of crap i dont remember.

Tucson would be Davis-Mothan lol. It was probably an F-16 since their is a guard unit there with F-16's. You say it didn't have any missles but I am sure the two machine guns on the side of it could take out many planes alone :p

Jared

[Airmack]

Ya I think we would of been swiss cheese
http://www.ocis.net/tvsac/bs16.jpg

[MaStA]

Ya I think we would of been swiss cheese
http://www.ocis.net/tvsac/bs16.jpg

Holy piss :Holy Crap I don't think I could trust going up in that thing lol...what if it dies that would be like total free fall no? EEK!

Then again that thing probably can glide well :thumb

Jared

[Airmack]

if a 747 can glide then im sure that little thing could..

The best part is when your landing and your like a 1foot of the ground. wild.

[MaStA]

if a 747 can glide then im sure that little thing could..

The best part is when your landing and your like a 1foot of the ground. wild.

Umm if the engines of a 747 go out I highly doubt that is going to land safely...thing will just start dropping like hell...at least to my knowledge lol. Yeah your right about that thing though I would just be kinda scared to ride in it thats all lol. :spin

Jared

[bejohnson]

Umm if the engines of a 747 go out I highly doubt that is going to land safely...thing will just start dropping like hell...at least to my knowledge lol. Yeah your right about that thing though I would just be kinda scared to ride in it thats all lol. :spin

Jared

The Lift to Drag ratio (Glide Ratio) for a 747 is approx. 17 depending on the model. A B-52 is about 20. The Albatross (bird) is also about 20 so if the pilot was good he would be able to safely land dead stick if 1.) he could control the aircraft and 2.) he could find somewhere to put it.

[MaStA]

The Lift to Drag ratio (Glide Ratio) for a 747 is approx. 17 depending on the model. A B-52 is about 20. The Albatross (bird) is also about 20 so if the pilot was good he would be able to safely land dead stick if 1.) he could control the aircraft and 2.) he could find somewhere to put it.

Your saying it goes 17 feet forward for every foot downward? If so that is pretty good...

Jared

[Raedwulf]

I had an annual camp once at RAF Coningsby - you Canadians have a link there, one of the Squadrans is an old Canadian RAF one and the F3's have a maple leaf insignia.

The Pilots were great fun and treated us to loads of displays- including a mach 1 pass down the runway at 50ft :shocking :shocking

Coningsby is a great base - it was the home base of the Dambusters (617 Squadron)

http://www.dambusters.org.uk/

They have loads of old Tallboy and Grand Slam Bombs on display.

Also it is home of the Battle of Britain Mrmorial Flight. When I was there they had just restored a M-109F which was very rare - they treated us to a mock dogfight between it and a Spitfire MK IV - awesome sight.

All in all a great week.

See here for more detail - you'll see the De Haviland Chipmunks we used to fly:

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/spotting/coningsby.html

Must've been an awesome trip
Ahhh the Dambusters, one of Alberta's Senators(he was elected by the west) was one of the pilots who flew that night, he's now deceased but he was proud to have been there... fly 60 feet above a lake and drop a nearly untested technology bomb to take out a structure as large as a dam

More than a few RCAF pilots were buried in the UK during the Battle of Britain, we used Hurricanes at the time

What a history Canada had back in WWI and WWII helping the mother country out, now we can barely come to our own aid :bomb

[Maro]

Must've been an awesome trip
Ahhh the Dambusters, one of Alberta's Senators(he was elected by the west) was one of the pilots who flew that night, he's now deceased but he was proud to have been there... fly 60 feet above a lake and drop a nearly untested technology bomb to take out a structure as large as a dam

More than a few RCAF pilots were buried in the UK during the Battle of Britain, we used Hurricanes at the time

What a history Canada had back in WWI and WWII helping the mother country out, now we can barely come to our own aid :bomb

Indeed - they have a superlative record.I have personally seen many of their Wargraves in Europe and the Far East and it is a moving site.

It was a great week - I have also spent Camps at RAF Valley (Flight Training), RAF Benson (Avionics Calibration and Home of the Queens Flight), RAF Gibraltar and the now closed RAF Gatow in Berlin.

Not bad really


:Wink