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3dGameMan
02-17-2005, 08:28 AM
Signs of current life on Mars, researchers claim: ~source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6981361/)

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By Brian Berger
Space News Staff Writer
Updated: 2:47 p.m. ET Feb. 16, 2005

WASHINGTON - A pair of NASA scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water.

The scientists, Carol Stoker and Larry Lemke of NASA’s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, told the group that they have submitted their findings to the journal Nature for publication in May, and their paper currently is being peer reviewed.

What Stoker and Lemke have found, according to several attendees of the private meeting, which took place Sunday, is not direct proof of life on Mars, but methane signatures and other signs of possible biological activity remarkably similar to those recently discovered in caves here on Earth.

Stoker and other researchers have long theorized that the Martian subsurface could harbor biological organisms that have developed unusual strategies for existing in extreme environments. That suspicion led Stoker and a team of U.S. and Spanish researchers in 2003 to southwestern Spain to search for subsurface life near the Rio Tinto river—so-called because of its reddish tint—the product of iron being dissolved in its highly acidic water.

Stoker did not respond to messages left Tuesday on her voice mail at Ames.

Stoker told SPACE.com in 2003, weeks before leading the expedition to southwestern Spain, that by studying the very acidic Rio Tinto, she and other scientists hoped to characterize the potential for a “chemical bioreactor” in the subsurface – an underground microbial ecosystem of sorts that might well control the chemistry of the surface environment.

Making such a discovery at Rio Tinto, Stoker said in 2003, would mean uncovering a new, previously uncharacterized metabolic strategy for living in the subsurface. “For that reason, the search for life in the Rio Tinto is a good analog for searching for life on Mars,” she said.

Stoker told her private audience Sunday evening that by comparing discoveries made at Rio Tinto with data collected by ground-based telescopes and orbiting spacecraft, including the European Space Agency’s Mars Express, she and Lemke have made a very a strong case that life exists below Mars’ surface.

The two scientists, according to sources at the Sunday meeting, based their case in part on Mars’ fluctuating methane signatures that could be a sign of an active underground biosphere and nearby surface concentrations of the sulfate jarosite, a mineral salt found on Earth in hot springs and other acidic bodies of water like Rio Tinto that have been found to harbor life despite their inhospitable environments...

CyberGuy
02-17-2005, 12:45 PM
Well of course there's life on Mars. If there isn't, where did the martians come from. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/u/grdmartien.gifhttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/u/faga.gifhttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/u/alieneyesa.gifhttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/u/ptitmartien.gif

Raedwulf
02-17-2005, 01:05 PM
Scientists have been spouting off these theories for years... it's not ground-breaking stuff with regards to lifeforms living underground, in caves.
The idea about the fluctuating Methane is better thought out than the one-time theoretical change in seasons observed on Mars though

Maybe with a few more missions to Mars, we'll land a probe on the right spot that will let the world know, we aren't alone

egarrard
02-17-2005, 04:20 PM
Millions of dollars just to go sniff farts... :Nope :lmao

Raedwulf
02-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Think that was already done with herring :jawsdown

Because of some research grant, we now know fish do fart