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tanman_sg
03-15-2005, 10:48 PM
Chevy Blazer model had highest death rate, study finds

Mercedes E class had lowest rate in insurance industry report

By Ken Thomas / Associated Press

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WASHINGTON -- The two-door, two-wheel-drive Chevrolet Blazer had the highest rate of driver death from 2000 through 2003, according a study released Tuesday by the insurance industry.

Models of the Blazer built from 1999 through 2002 had 308 driver deaths per million registered vehicles of that make and model on the road annually during the four-year span, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety study found. The sport utility vehicle also had the highest rollover death rate at 251 deaths.

The two-door Mitsubishi Mirage had the second-highest rate with 209 driver deaths followed by the Pontiac Firebird, which registered 205 deaths.

The report found that heavier vehicles in categories such as cars, SUVs and pickups generally had lower death rates. Among SUVs, the death rate in the lightest vehicles was more than twice as high as in the heaviest SUVs.

"Pound for pound across the vehicle types, cars almost always have lower death rates than either pickups or SUVs. This generally is because the SUVs and pickups have much higher rates of death in single-vehicle rollover crashes," said Adrian Lund, the institute's chief operating officer.

Alan Adler, a General Motors Corp. spokesman, said the study failed to illustrate the role that human behavior or the pattern of the vehicle's use could have factored into the fatalities. GM produces the Chevy and Pontiac models.

"It is impossible in looking at these statistics to know what role driver behavior, such as drunk driving and driving without a safety belt, played in these deaths," Adler said. "We know from decades of work that whether a driver dies in a crash has more to do with behavior than with the vehicle."

Dottie Diemer, a Mitsubishi spokeswoman, said the Mirage Coupe is no longer in production. But prior to its production ending after the 2001 model year, she said it "met or exceeded all applicable federal safety standards relating to crash worthiness and occupant protection."

The institute said the general pattern of death rates have been consistent since it began computing the data in the late 1980s.

The average driver death rate in the latest study was 87 per million registered vehicle years. Lund noted a "pattern of improvement" showing that in the late 1980s the overall driver death rate was higher than 100.

The Mercedes E class had the lowest rate with 10 deaths, followed by the Toyota 4Runner, the Volkswagen Passat and the Lexus RX 300.

The study of 199 passenger vehicle models included rates of driver deaths in all crashes plus rates in multiple-vehicle, single-vehicle, and single-vehicle rollover crashes.

The rate represented the reported number of driver deaths divided by the model's number of registered years, according to data from the federal government's Fatality Analysis Reporting System and registration counts from The Polk Company, a Michigan-based provider of automotive information.


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CyberGuy
03-16-2005, 04:49 AM
The Mercedes E class had the lowest rate with 10 deaths, followed by the Toyota 4Runner, the Volkswagen Passat and the Lexus RX 300.

While I have a Lexus RX300, I find these numbers a bit unrealistic. There are far, far more Chevy blazers on the road than all 3 of these car models combined. Also after driving a 4Runner for a number of years I can testify that you do not get the urge to push them hard around corners and curves. With their very high center of gravity they do get very unstable very quickly when hitting corners at speed. Crossovers like the RX300 are more forgiving, but you still need to be aware that there is still a higher center of gravity.

But the bottom line is that you simply can't drive an SUV the same way you will drive Beemer.

3dGameMan
03-16-2005, 09:12 AM
While I have a Lexus RX300, I find these numbers a bit unrealistic. There are far, far more Chevy blazers on the road than all 3 of these car models combined. Also after driving a 4Runner for a number of years I can testify that you do not get the urge to push them hard around corners and curves. With their very high center of gravity they do get very unstable very quickly when hitting corners at speed. Crossovers like the RX300 are more forgiving, but you still need to be aware that there is still a higher center of gravity.

But the bottom line is that you simply can't drive an SUV the same way you will drive Beemer.

Exactly, can't drive an SUV like it's a car, but lots of people do! :shifty

eire1274
03-16-2005, 10:57 AM
Exactly, can't drive an SUV like it's a car, but lots of people do! :shifty
Exactly.

The problem with the Blazer (which, IMHO, is actually a very good vehicle, considering my distate with US brands) is that it is relatively cheap. People get it into their heads that they can get an SUV for little more than a car, and they do so. The problem is, many of these people have little experience driving a lifted vehicle.

SUVs differ tremendously from even pickups, as the weight is moved even higher due to the body style. Where I can "drift" safely in a full size truck, I could easily roll over an SUV. But people don't think about this, and drive their new Blazer like a sports car.

wazman
03-16-2005, 11:03 AM
I actually enjoy driving my Jeep more than I do a car anymore. I like the fact that even though it doesn't have the passing pickup of a car, it has the strength to pull through anything... I can't think of the exact word there, but you know what I mean - when a car would have trouble, the Jeep just soldiers on.

WazLady, however... She likes the Jeep. But she still forgets it's not her Intrigue...

CyberGuy
03-16-2005, 11:24 AM
WazLady, however... She likes the Jeep. But she still forgets it's not her Intrigue...

Here comes Wazlady around the corner on 2 wheels! Wheeee! :noway :KICK ASS

j.k. I'm sure even she realizes that she has to take the corners with a little more care, particularly now that she's bussing around kids.

Unfortunately there are too many that don't bother to read the little 'tipping hazard warning' stickers on their drivers-side sun visors.

bejohnson
03-16-2005, 11:59 AM
Here comes Wazlady around the corner on 2 wheels! Wheeee! :noway :KICK ASS

j.k. I'm sure even she realizes that she has to take the corners with a little more care, particularly now that she's bussing around kids.

Unfortunately there are too many that don't bother to read the little 'tipping hazard warning' stickers on their drivers-side sun visors.

Tipping Hazard?

Are you referring to the one in the parking lot where the valet has his hand out? :lmao

Tivon
03-16-2005, 04:28 PM
I don't like them because I feel like I'm on a boat.

unloadedak
03-16-2005, 08:22 PM
But people don't think about this, and drive their new Blazer like a sports car.

And that was me when I got mine at first, now I drive like a grandma :banana . Mannn that thing can drift like a beast, I own my neighborhood streets. :lmao


Thank god mine is a 1995 though. :Sigh Maybe they started slacking on Blazers because more and more bigger SUV's are being purchased (Tahoes, Suburbans, Envoys)

Personally I LOVE my Blazer, I have never drove an actual car so I don't know much of a difference, hopefully someday I'll have a 3000GT or something like it, or maybe even a 350Z :jawsdown

IanBMW
03-16-2005, 10:24 PM
While I have a Lexus RX300, I find these numbers a bit unrealistic. There are far, far more Chevy blazers on the road than all 3 of these car models combined. Also after driving a 4Runner for a number of years I can testify that you do not get the urge to push them hard around corners and curves. With their very high center of gravity they do get very unstable very quickly when hitting corners at speed. Crossovers like the RX300 are more forgiving, but you still need to be aware that there is still a higher center of gravity.

But the bottom line is that you simply can't drive an SUV the same way you will drive Beemer.
Cyberguy I think your speaking to my heart :sweat J/K...I am on my second beemer and my mom has owned both a Blazer and now a beautiful RX300. And I can say that she drives way faster than me, to the point that it's kinda scary. Altho she doesn't even push the limits on corners, so i think she has half her sense. And I agree with you on the statistics, and as far as I'm considered all statistics are horribly unreliable. Even if they are true more than likely they are way flawed, people just need to look at these sort of facts with some critical thinking. :smokin