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wazman
06-09-2005, 11:41 AM
Found this on another forum and wanted to get thoughts on it (source): (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/07/AR2005060702019.html)

Tobacco Escapes Huge Penalty
U.S. Seeks $10 Billion Instead of $130 Billion

By Carol D. Leonnig
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 8, 2005; Page A01

After eight months of courtroom argument, Justice Department lawyers abruptly upset a landmark civil racketeering case against the tobacco industry yesterday by asking for less than 8 percent of the expected penalty.

As he concluded closing arguments in the six-year-old lawsuit, Justice Department lawyer Stephen D. Brody shocked tobacco company representatives and anti-tobacco activists by announcing that the government will not seek the $130 billion that a government expert had testified was necessary to fund smoking-cessation programs. Instead, Brody said, the Justice Department will ask tobacco companies to pay $10 billion over five years to help millions of Americans quit smoking.

Before it was cut, the cessation program was the most significant financial penalty still available to the government as part of its litigation, which had been the largest civil racketeering and conspiracy case in U.S. history. The government contended that six tobacco companies engaged in a 50-year conspiracy to defraud and addict smokers and then conceal the dangers of cigarettes.

"We were very surprised," said Dan Webb, lawyer for Altria Group's Philip Morris USA and the coordinating attorney in the case. "They've gone down from $130 billion to $10 billion with absolutely no explanation. It's clear the government hasn't thought through what it's doing."

The Justice Department offered little explanation for the figure. Associate Attorney General Robert D. McCallum Jr. and members of the trial team declined to answer questions as the court session ended. In 2001, then-Attorney General John D. Ashcroft tried to settle or shelve the government's racketeering case against the industry before a public outcry forced its revival.

"It feels like a political decision to take into consideration the tobacco companies' financial interest rather than health interests of 45 million addicted smokers," said William V. Corr, director of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. "The government proved its case, but the levels of funding are a shadow of the cessation treatment program that the government's own expert witness recommended."

Sources and government officials close to the case said the trial lawyers wanted to request $130 billion for smoking-cessation programs but were pressured by leaders in the attorney general's office, particularly McCallum, to make the cut. Arguments within the Justice Department continued behind the scenes through yesterday morning, according to the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the controversy over the matter.

When the case began in 2004, the government sought to force the tobacco industry to pay $280 billion in allegedly ill-gotten profits. But in February, a federal appeals court ruled that the administration could not seek that penalty.

Michael Fiore, the government expert who recommended $130 billion for cessation programs, is a medical professor and director of a tobacco research center who chaired the subcommittee on tobacco cessation in the Department of Health and Human Services' Interagency Committee on Smoking and Health.

His testimony was widely considered to represent the sum the government was seeking for a cessation program, though Justice Department lawyers had made no formal demand until yesterday.

The strength of the government's case hinged on a large collection of internal tobacco company documents, many of which were never before made public. The government began its case in September by showing on an oversized projection screen the written memos of tobacco executives and scientists as they described their plans to keep customers in the dark about whether their habit was addictive or dangerous and to encourage young people to smoke.

Facing those same internal documents in another suit,the tobacco industry in 1998 agreed to pay $246 billion to settle a lawsuit filed by states to recover their costs for the medical treatment of smokers.

Justice Department spokeswoman Cynthia Magnuson said the department could ask the court to force the industry to pay more in future years for cessation programs, which include a staffed help line for smokers, treatment programs and possibly free medications. She suggested the penalty was designed to comply with the recent appeals court ruling that such penalties could not be used to punish past fraud. Sources close to the case said the cessation program is either a valid penalty or it's not; the dollar figure should not change that.

"This proposal has been designed to be a forward-looking remedy to prevent and restrain future wrongful conduct consistent with the recent Circuit Court opinion in this case," she said.

U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler, who is presiding over the case, is expected to decide in the next few months whether the government proved its case of an industry-wide conspiracy and whether to order any penalties against the companies. Among the other remedies the government is still seeking are an industry-funded anti-smoking educational campaign and a court injunction to stop the companies from targeting youth in their marketing.

The government also wants the judge to appoint a court monitor to watch over industry practices and ensure that tobacco companies do not commit fraud in the future. Kessler has repeatedly expressed concern about how such proposals would work.

Defendants in the case include Philip Morris USA; R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. and Brown & Williamson, which have merged to form Reynolds American Inc.; British American Tobacco; the Lorillard Tobacco unit of Loew's Corp.; and Vector Group Ltd.'s Liggett Group Inc. They began their closing arguments today.

Anti-smoking advocates assailed the decision as a self-inflicted blow that would help the tobacco companies' bottom line and miss a well-earned chance to help American smokers.

William B. Schultz, a former Justice Department official who oversaw the lawsuit under the Clinton administration, said that "it's disappointing, to say the least, that at the final stages of this litigation they have pulled their punches in such a significant way. This is the loss of a significant opportunity to advance public health. Smoking is the number one preventable disease. It kills 400,000 people a year."

Lead government attorney Sharon Eubanks had summed up the trial early yesterday, saying the government had proved the industry engaged in a "decades-long pattern of . . . misrepresentations, half-truths, deceptions and lies that continue to this day."

So it looks like I was right after all... As long as government's in bed with the tobacco companies, you're not going to see smoking bans, or anything of that kind...

This is how the government the American people elected does business...

(Note: yes, I am a smoker. No, I am not bashing smokers. Yes, I am quitting (actually, I pretty much have). But I think tobacco companies are just as bad as anyone else. Being addicted to these things is no fun, as any ex-smoker can tell you.)

wazman
06-09-2005, 11:46 AM
Here's another article (source): (http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tobacco8jun08,0,3044593.story?coll=la-home-business)

U.S. Eases Demands on Tobacco Companies
By Myron Levin, Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON — Justice Department lawyers Tuesday asked a federal judge for sweeping sanctions against the biggest tobacco companies, saying the government had proved a 50-year industry conspiracy to mislead the public with "half truths, deceptions and lies that continue to this day."

But without explanation, government attorneys drastically reduced their most expensive demand, scaling back a proposed industry-funded smoking-cessation program from $130 billion to $10 billion.

The surprise development came in closing statements in the government's racketeering case against the tobacco industry, which has been in trial for 8 1/2 months. The tobacco companies will make their summations today, and rebuttal arguments by the Justice Department are expected Thursday. A ruling is not expected for weeks or months.

In prior expert testimony, the government had outlined a proposal that tobacco companies pay more than $5 billion a year to provide a smoking-cessation program for 25 years. This effort would include telephone quit lines, cessation clinics and training and research on the most effective quit methods.

But near the end of the government's presentation before U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler on Tuesday, Justice Department lawyer Stephen Brody said the government was seeking a five-year program funded at $2 billion a year.

A person familiar with the situation, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the change was "forced on the tobacco team by higher-level, politically appointed officials of the Justice Department," including Associate Atty. Gen. Robert McCallum, who oversees the civil division.

McCallum, who issued a statement lauding the "tireless efforts" of the trial team, declined to discuss the matter. Brody and Sharon Eubanks, director of the government trial team, also declined to comment.

Justice Department officials Tuesday night issued a statement describing the proposed five-year program as "an initial requirement" that could be extended in the future if court-appointed monitors decided the industry was committing fraud.

"This proposal has been designed to be a forward-looking remedy to prevent and restrain future wrongful conduct by" the tobacco companies, the statement said.

Dan Webb, a lawyer for Philip Morris USA, said the scaled-back request showed that government lawyers "had not thought through these expensive remedies."

But an official with one anti-smoking group said he was concerned that the change was not based on public health or the law.

"The question is, is this a political decision that's been made by the Department of Justice?" said Vince Willmore, communications director for the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, an ardent supporter of the racketeering case.

The giant tobacco lawsuit was inherited from the Clinton administration, and there was wide speculation that the Bush administration would pull the plug. But the Bush administration eventually poured millions of dollars into the case.

Before his appointment in the Justice Department in 2001, McCallum had been a partner at Alston & Bird, an Atlanta-based firm that has done trademark and patent work for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco. In 2002, McCallum signed a friend-of-the-court brief by the administration urging the Supreme Court not to consider an appeal by the government of Canada to reinstate a cigarette smuggling case against R.J. Reynolds that had been dismissed. The department's ethics office had cleared McCallum to take part in that case.

Apart from the smoking-cessation program, government lawyers Tuesday asked Kessler to order an array of other anti-smoking measures. Among them:

• A ban on price-cutting promotions, such as the buy-two, get-one-free deals that have become a mainstay of brand marketing. The offers are particularly enticing to price-sensitive teens, the government said.

• Fines against tobacco companies if youth smoking doesn't decline by targeted amounts.

• Barring the use of descriptors such as "light" and "mild" on lower-tar brands, because industry research shows that smokers make up for lower tar and nicotine by drawing deeper or smoking more cigarettes.

• An industry-financed education campaign focused on the hazards of smoking and of secondhand smoke.

• So-called corrective statements by the industry that acknowledge, for example, that secondhand smoke causes cancer and other serious harm.

• Court-appointed industry monitors with the power to oversee the remedial programs and remove senior executives who skirt court directives.

Along with Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds, defendants include Brown & Williamson, which has merged with R.J. Reynolds to form Reynolds American Inc; British American Tobacco; the Lorillard Tobacco unit of Loews Corp. and Vector Group Ltd.'s Liggett Group Inc.

The cigarette makers contend they never conspired to deceive the public. They also have accused the government of ignoring its own longtime support for the tobacco business and of failing to acknowledge significant reforms by the industry since its landmark 1998 settlement with the states.

But Eubanks, who split the summation with three other government lawyers, told the judge that the government had succeeded in establishing what it had described at the outset of the trial as its "Seven Pillars of Fraud."

The government said it proved that the industry had lied about the risks of smoking and secondhand smoke; had falsely promised to sponsor independent research; had lied about addiction; had manipulated nicotine levels to hook smokers; had deceptively promoted low-tar or "light" cigarettes; had falsely denied targeting youth; and had suppressed evidence that would have undermined its public-relations stands and defenses in court.

To prevail in the case, the government must show not only that the industry committed fraud in the past but also that such conduct is continuing or is likely to occur in the future.

I've bolded what I find to be an interesting part of this article...

CyberGuy
06-09-2005, 11:54 AM
What a f***ing joke. Here is the Justice department with the tobacco companies are right there in the palm of their hands, they are proven guilty as hell and no way on earth they could weasel out of ponying up the 120 Billion. All they had to do was squeeze. You know there were some brand new billionaires working in the Justice department thanks to the tobacco companies over this one. :shifty

Frankly this makes the prosecutors in the Justice department just as corrupt and guilty as the tobacco companies. Your legal system in action folks - laid out for all to see. If I lived there I would be embarassed as hell.

Money makes the world go round, the world go round, the world go round...

wazman
06-10-2005, 10:19 AM
Hmmm... I would have thought there'd be more of an uproar over this. There usually is with these smoking threads.

CyberGuy
06-10-2005, 10:51 AM
Well, can't say I didn't try :surrender

egarrard
06-10-2005, 11:33 AM
Hmmm... I would have thought there'd be more of an uproar over this. There usually is with these smoking threads.I don't think there are many people reading any of the threads anymore. :(

Sky Rookie
06-10-2005, 12:10 PM
I don't think there are many people reading any of the threads anymore. :(

I read it, I already know that money and government never mix well. So seeing it in "print" is not a shock.

I don't smoke, I don't like the smell of it and I don't like breathing it in... but I am powerless to change things. All I can do is leave and I have done that before.

Maro
06-10-2005, 09:09 PM
One of the executive directors of British American Tobacco is Kenneth Clarke.

Once he was Chancellor of the Excequer (Which controls taxes on Cigarettes, alcohol etc ) whilst still being a director.


Conflict of interest? :jawsdown

Now he's in the frame to be the Conservative party Leader.

:negative

Just remember this - the Chairman of BAT Doesn't Smoke

:What the