Are computers fans all the same?

 
 
 

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Anonymous

whats the name on the song when you test the fans? REALLY nice song!

Anonymous

would this fans make a difference on a radiator compared to lets say the gentle typhoons at 1850 rpm?

Anonymous

would this fans make a difference on a radiator compared to lets say the gentle typhoons at 1850 rpm?

Anonymous

I don't see anywhere a mention that per manufacturer recommendation this is meant to be an INTAKE fan, NOT venting out case. "The AP121 was designed for use as a case intake fan where cooling object at a distance is required."

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I wouldve thought that you would exhibit the Noctua fans

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Anonymous

If they make orange like Xigmateks I'd get 5!!

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great things . very interesting omg , thanks rodney ,keep up the good work and this is the step in right direction , detailed and demoed presentation

Anonymous

Rodney, I always learn something new from you!

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Anonymous

Nice fan. Would it work well as the external air duct fan for a Cooler Master ATCS 840? Also, would the Cooler Master Silent Pro M 700W you reviewed run 2 Asus 5850 DIRECTCU cards in XFire? They use 8 and 6 pin connectors and the Silent Pro M 700W doesn't appear to have a lot of PCIe connections. Thanks, I don't know much about this stuff. I'm a huge fan of your work (pun intended).

Anonymous

Don't forget
Airflow (CFM)
Noise
Number of blades on the fan.
Bearing types.

Anonymous

Is it a good idea to use this fan as a CPU fan cooler (I know it's not a 4-pin PWM fan)?

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Sure, it really can be used in place of any other 120mm/180mm fan.

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Hi Rondney Reynolds
I was wondering if you could help me with picking out hardware for a gaming pc.
I plan to bould my first gaming pc. I can´t decide on what type of hardwere to choose I asked my LAN-friends
but they are all very picky about hardware and argue alot about it. So I am asking alot of hardware reviewers
on youtube what they would put into a gaming pc. This will not be a dream gaming pc because that would make me broke.
If I were to buy all the top of the line hardware. I have made lists on websites that I would like to put in to a pc
and the prize was thousands of dollors that I cannot afford. So nothing to expencive but not to cheap.

I have narrowed down 4 manufacturors of motherboards that are:
GIGABYTE
EVGA
ASUS
MSI
I am not picky about the chipset.

With memory I pretty much don´t care about brand just something that works.

I don´t care about the core intel or AMD.

Graphic cards - any type. I may buy a 3D vision monitor and a 3D vision set. Depending on what type of graphic card
you recommend.

Power supply I have chosen to use the corsair AX 1200W.

The case I am going to be using is a modified ANTECH 1200 with watercooling. I have two 360 radiatiors from EK,
an EK suprieme HF and a Swiftech pump MCP655.
I am going to be using bitspower fittings 1/2"

I am going to buy waterblocks for the graphic cards that you would recommend and I might watercool the motherboard
depending on the chipset and manufacturer.

If you can halp me with this list I will be very grateful,
your humble viewer joman160.

Anonymous

well i bought 4 thermaltkae Thunderblade 120mm fans for my cm690.
can you show please how the Thermaltake Thunderblade fan pushes air because they are quite noise but i hope they do their work properly as written ^^

Anonymous

Not bad I guess but I'll stick with my Noctuas

Anonymous

lol 35 cfm is craaaaap, Noctuas NF - P14 puhes like 65 cfm and its quieter!!! except its brown and tan :S.

3DGM product placement ftw XD

Anonymous

Cant compare the numbers because different producers dont use the same metode to get to what cfm their fans has in output

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Noctuas fans are great, but the colors prevent most people from buying them. Why they don't sell other colors is beyond me but it does limit sales regardless of the performance and you are comparing 140mm vs 120mm. What you wanted to use here was NF-P12-1300 Airflow: 54.36 CFM @ 1300 RPM , Acoustical Noise 19.8 dB(A.

It makes you want to dye the vanilla - beige fan panels black...

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Anonymous

Beige and black combos are quite the rage now in interior design, especially after an african themed living room won an award last year or so.

Anonymous

whoops i just realised that one is 140 mm, so i guess the NF-P12 is a better compairison, it does 53 cubic feet and its also quieter, these silverstone ones dont seem soo good maybe their cheap :S

Anonymous

Meh , i just have 8 Excalibur 120mm fans for my CM690 II Advance , perfect airflow though :D

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Whats the benefit of having a fan that moves are in a straight line at a fairly low speed instead of a normal fan that moves lots of air?
Specifically the Cooler Master 90CFM 120mm fan
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=4355&category_id=63
I have two of these in my case and they seem to work pretty well

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Because it directs the warm case air far enough away from the case so other fans don't intake the warm air.

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cooler master has good fans if you're looking for looks but its noisy for its cfm, that 90 cfm is a lie, try 45-60

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Thats what I was thinking. 90 did seem a bit much, especially because it doesnt feel like it moves any more air than a thermaltake fan I have

Anonymous

I'd like that silverstone fan, my only problem is the grill how its not removeable - this means I can clean the dust on the fans blades that builds up over time.

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Question for Rodney, do you think fans will/could ever get replaced by air multipliers?

its a new powerful but silent fan made by dyson
http://www.dyson.com/fans/

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Anonymous

There is already a motherboard that uses a inonising air mover. not sure which mobo it was.

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Maybe, but ATM they are really expensive.

Anonymous

i looked up the fan on scan.co.uk. it's only £12. i am going to get some for my HAF X case.

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Sweet! You better watch it, you HAF X might take off ;)

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Man those look awesome, but at $20 a pop I think I'll stick with my Yate Loon hi speeds :(

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Anonymous

i have a sharkoon silent eagle 1000
and a cooler master, something
they do the job so i dont care tbh

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Is this a Q&A video or a review video?
That's a nice fan by the way.
Cosmoknight74

Anonymous

That fan looks indeed pretty nice. However, this looks more like a small mini video review. But I don't mind ;-)

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wow it's very quite, with that performance i was waiting a lot of noise, very impresive.

Anonymous

I think the grill of that fan is too restrictive, 35 CFM @ 1500 RPM isn't very good. Yes it is a fan with an integrated grill and the pressure is pretty decent considering its speed. Great topic too, most people do not know what makes a good and bad case fan. The bearings play an important role.

Sleeve bearings are the cheapest, they last about 40,000 hours at 40 degrees Celsius, they only perform properly in a vertical mounting orientation and they suffer from oil loss which will increase the noise of the fan over time.

Ball bearings can operate better at higher temperatures, they perform well in any mounting orientation and they last over 60,000 hours at 40 degrees Celsius. You may find fans with one or two ball bearings, or one ball bearing and one sleeve bearing. Ball bearing fans are more costly.

Fluid dynamic bearings are modified sleeve bearings. They last even longer than ball bearings because there is minimal contact with the bearing, shaft and thrust plate. These are also self-lubricating and some do not suffer in a horizontal mounting orientation. Very good ones can operate at even higher temperatures than ball bearings, but of course these are very costly.

You may also find magnetic bearings which stabilize the rotor axis which can decrease bearing resistance and lengthen the lifespan. Noctua's SSO bearing is a magnetic fluid dynamic bearing. There are also ceramic bearings which I don't know much about and rifle bearings, which are a modified sleeve bearing which once again I don't know much about.

For CPU heat sinks and radiators you'll want a higher pressure fan so that more of the air can pass through the heat sink easily. This is more of a requirement with heat sinks and radiators with a dense fan configuration. So choose your fans wisely.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the grill of that fan is too restrictive, 35 CFM @ 1500 RPM isn't very good. Yes it is a fan with an integrated grill and the pressure is pretty decent considering its speed. Great topic too, most people do not know what makes a good and bad case fan. The bearings play an important role. Sleeve bearings are the cheapest, they last about 40,000 hours at 40 degrees Celsius, they only perform properly in a vertical mounting orientation and they suffer from oil loss which will increase the noise of the fan over time. Ball bearings can operate better at higher temperatures, they perform well in any mounting orientation and they last over 60,000 hours at 40 degrees Celsius. You may find fans with one or two ball bearings, or one ball bearing and one sleeve bearing. Ball bearing fans are more costly. Fluid dynamic bearings are modified sleeve bearings. They last even longer than ball bearings because there is minimal contact with the bearing, shaft and thrust plate. These are also self-lubricating and some do not suffer in a horizontal mounting orientation. Very good ones can operate at even higher temperatures than ball bearings, but of course these are very costly. You may also find magnetic bearings which stabilize the rotor axis which can decrease bearing resistance and lengthen the lifespan. Noctua's SSO bearing is a magnetic fluid dynamic bearing. There are also ceramic bearings which I don't know much about and rifle bearings, which are a modified sleeve bearing which once again I don't know much about. For CPU heat sinks and radiators you'll want a higher pressure fan so that more of the air can pass through the heat sink easily. This is more of a requirement with heat sinks and radiators with a dense fan configuration. So choose your fans wisely.

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Delta fans are my #1 choice. They usually use one ball bearing, many of them have directional fan blades on the back, like the integrated grill on that Silverstone fan but much less restrictive. Personally I would prefer the PFB series as they have more fan blades than directional fan blades, meaning that there is less restricted flow but still plenty of directed airflow. And at the speeds they come at... crazy airflow.

For 120mm x 25mm case fans I highly recommend the Scythe GentleTyphoon series, Scythe S-Flex series or Thermalright FDB series (same as S-Flex). Yate Loon fans are the best cheap fans money can buy.

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Anonymous

What you want, an helicopter or a computer? xDD

Anonymous

Fantastic video R.R.

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rr is the man

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Wish it came in 140mm. My case has 5 spots where 140mm fans could go and those sound like excellent fans.

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what makes the aerodynamics so different?

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dang i think youtube is down . Getting error left and right .

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That's odd, seems ok to me. Anyone else having issues?

Anonymous

wtf kinda question is this???^^

of course not

poll closed

omally
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you got pooped on

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FYI: This isn't a poll video, it's a Q&A video ;)

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Why does it matter if the air is straight or in directions so long as they both have the same CMF air output?

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